have this concern, right, we have known about this payroll issue i think for quite sometime, have hadthctionv we? ~ haven't we? >> i don't know -- not with the example that i gave. >> okay. >> but we know that, we know that the structure of many of the departments at city college are not on solid ground. >> the thing that i don't understand is that the state chancellor had, you know, people from that department, that agency at city college for the last year. supposedly working on these things, right? and now it turns out that city college supposedly didn't do enough, right? even though it was following the guidance of these people who were advising them. and now the same people have been assigned to work with city college to address the deficiencies that city college could not address with these people advising them. (applause) >> so, i'll tell you, in terms of common sense, having been a counselor on the school district, if the school district hired someone to help it comply with some of the deficiencies, an agency finds that the deficiencies are still there, i would question the school dist