it has produced hafez. it has produced cyrus, and in the 20th century it is the bell weather state for the middle east. you are very right to like it. >> i sometimes think, charlie, iran is like classical music or wine. it's just something that is so complex and so deep and has so many layers, and when i read my own name in the press referred to as an iran expert i cringe, because i think that no one can be an expert on this country, it is so profoundly deep. >> charlie: haleh, i'll leave the last word to you. >> you are talking with someone who is in love with the flora and fauna of iran and feels to this day very betrayed by being arrested and put in jail by the country of my birth, that i love, but i think iran has always been a trend-setter, and even when it comes to women's rights, iran had one of the most progressive family laws in the region, and even after the revolution i'm meeting with iraqi women, meeting with women from the persian gulf, they would always tell me, "explain to us how the family l