hagel: well, i would start with the northstar.ch in all my time around joe biden, and i've known him and worked with them in different capacities for over 25 years, i've been all over the world with him, been in situations with leaders with him. he has always stayed true to his northstar. that is where i would start. the other advice i would give him, and he knows this too, but we all need to be reminded sometimes of things. listen. be inclusive. and reach out. i think those are very important qualities in a president. he has already said it. i intend to be a president for all of america. republicans, democrats, and i believe he will do that. . he needs to stay true to that. and the humanity that joe biden represents, the dignity, the decency, don't ever allow that to go away. you are angered by the decency and the dignity. and we need a new and clear infusion of dignity and decency in the white house. i think that may be his biggest challenge and the biggest accomplishment that he can make in four years. if you can do that, he wi

secretary hagel what failed? i remember covering you in the united states senate and you didn't always like my coverage sometimes. you know, you would duck me, but i would, i would, i would, you know, ask you in the sense that you were unpredictable to me on occasion. you were not a predictable vote in one column, particularly in foreign policy issues. and i'm just wondering, one, are you bothered by how predictable votes have become voters on the supreme court votes in the united states senate? you know, i'm just wondering where that thinking and introspection is, you know, and i think secondly, what happened to that kind of republican, why have you failed and your colleagues failed to keep the republican party thoughtful party? well, obviously i can't speak for my former colleagues or anybody in office now, but for me, steve, answer your question. i always had a northstar didn't mean i was always right or i had the right answer, but i had a northstar. i knew why i was there and i used to say, and you heard me s

joining me is former senator chuck hagel, who has served this defense secretary in the obama administration. he was a conservative senator from nebraska and a lifelong republican, well known as one of america's lead bipartisan voices. thank you so much for joining us today. you're part of a group called the national council on election integrity. we've just had this major election more americans voted in this election than have voted in a century in this country. they're back, they're back at it. a lot of people are saying that election is not over. you are a republican, but one who does not support donald trump. what do we need to achieve at this point to get a sound secure trustable election result that more americans will believe in that are that are on the case now. steve, thanks for having me on. i've always believed the essence of democracy is a trust and confidence in our a free fair, secure our elections. and if most americans feel that this past election was fair and was secure and was honest, then that's a big thing. that's a big deal because that's where you start. if the citizen

george bush did it, barack obama did it with several people, including chuck hagel.on't think president trump did it, but healing has not been one of his priorities. so that will be interesting. but while they're also running to find a chuck hagel or john kasich or whoever to put in the administration, they also have other issues and other groups that are important parts of the coalition that theoretically assuming it happens the way we think it is that got him to the white house, people of color, progressives, bernie sanders, talk of bernie sanders wanting to be secretary of labor, elizabeth warren, talk of her being secretary of the treasury. there are a lot of competing values. i want to take another moment. you did this earlier, i want to do it again, which is when kamala harris, senator kamala harris gave her speech at her convention such as the convention was, we all took a moment to acknowledge what an incredible moment it was for girls, for women, for people of color to see themselves represented that way. and we are on track to have this moment as you acknow

ever, that he thinks same-sex couples should be able to have civil unions one of our writers, jenny hagele is buzzing. the pope has said that same-sex couples should be allowed to have civil unions. this is really exciting stuff. >> seth: is it i mean, i haven't heard people advocate for civil union since the late '90s. i mean, it feels a little, i don't know, outdated >> seth, the catholic church is an old institution sometimes, change comes slowly but when it comes, it is thrilling. oh wow, seth. there's some more, breaking news this is huge the pope has just said he thinks we should all get dial-up internet >> seth: oh, wow, jenny, are you sure you're not getting an old news update? >> no, seth, this happened today. the pope has given his blessing. he said we can all get dial-up internet, and i think that is huge progress. >> seth: i don't think it is again, it sounds kind of outdated >> oh. oh seth, the pope has just released a statement. it says, have you guys heard "the miseducation of lauryn hill"? it's a great album you should check it out. wow, seth. wow. this pope is very cool >

look at chuck hagel, people like john kasich and carly fear rena, meg whitman, those are the sort ofple who have the qualifications joe biden will be looking at. a lot of serious people ask me about the joe biden administration, what are the chances socialists will be running it? i think if he picks some key republicans, it will do a lot to calm the market and calm the american people into knowing the next four years aren't going to be the most radical elements of the democratic party controlling things, being a more sensible side of the democratic party and even some republicans helping lead the way. it would do a lot to calm the country after what we went through in the last week. jillian: thanks, have a good day. carley: governor cuomo announcing the restrictions as kim jong un for cases surge in new york. joe borelli says he needs to consider the financial harm it will cause next. >> today's report very worrisome but this is a warning signs the we have work to do to make sure this -- city stay safe and we do not have that second wave. >> bill diblasio says he is worried about cov

, both served in that capacity for barack obama and other presidents capacity, chuck hagel, you firstut of philadelphia where they are looking for ballots, there has been a concern about lost ballots, ballots that end up where they shouldn't be, what do you make of this, is obviously the influx is overwhelming, 100 million americans have already voted, what do you make of all of this. >> i think first of all we should not be surprised that with the record-breaking voter turnout especially mail-in votes that we would not have a glitch or two and some of the most important states, with that said we should not just accept that, at least i have confidence in the local officials being able to sort this out, they've done it for years and years and we need to stay focused on it, we cannot accept half good things, they have to be focused on indiscipline and done right but at the same time we need to make sure every vote counts, we need to do everything that we can to ensure that we are collecting all the ballots, the legal ballots, they are done right and i have confidence and local state off

bush, republican congressman ray lahood and chuck hagel serving in the obama administration. is this something that democrats want to see? do they want to see a republican inside the biden white house, or the cabinet? >> well, first, thank you for asking me if i was going to join the biden administration cabinet. i've given it a lot of consideration but first i'm trying to at least get senior before political commentator on cnn before i make it up to the cabinet level position, but thanks for asking. no, i firmly believe that many of us wouldn't have a problem, he will get some blow back from my colleagues on the far left, but many people won't have a problem if he puts a republican in the cabinet. the fact is if that person is best suited for the job then so be it. if it's the best person for the job then do it. barack obama had a republican in his cabinet and i am someone who is willing to allow joe biden, who was not my first course in the democratic primary, i was a kamala harris supporter, but somebody i got on board with, somebody who has come this far, somebody whose s

chuck hagel served in his cabinet.now it's hypothetical, would you consider a session appointment? >> you would never not consider something that would be very important if something like that came. i haven't heard anything, have no intention of it. but if it was something magical where you could make a big world impact, of course, you look at it. but my job and my goal is represent the 700,000 people i do. i will support president-elect biden when i can and oppose him honorably when i must. >> congressman kinzinger, thank you very much for speaking honestly. >> you bet. >> it is such a refreshing thing to hear with no spin. great interview, jim. >>> a prison and prep school, lisa ling up next with us, showing how these two unlikely worlds come together as her new season of "this is life" begins this weekend. she's here next. pizza. tacos. pizza! what about subway? it's a good call and everyone loves it. we raised our kids on it. so it stopped the bickering? (mocking tone) "mom, jj's copying me!" grow up. mom! knock it

to christians but you have five gates is a holdover from the bush administration, chuck hagel boyhoodll be interesting i think he saw a number of prominent republicans as you said. >> betsy is probably going to get the boots most likely. they want an educator in that spot. i cannot blame them for that it's best with joe biden as the first lady. it will be interesting to see the president-elect wants eight cabinet that is as diverse as this country. i think one of the interesting things will be if he takes a cue from justin trudeau in canada. kennedy: region i would take too many cues from justin trudeau. [laughter] civic just that there is an equal number of women cabinet officials i think be really groundbreaking for any initiation going forward. kennedy: jim what do you see? >> the joke is on you guys but a lot of people do not know this but corn pop was a republican. [laughter] honestly love the outcome of this election so much in terms of how slim the majorities are because it means every single person who sold out to the establishment hopes of getting a cabinet job can't get it.

i want to talk about a piece that you wrote with chuck hagel about election security.rsf quote from it, across the political spectrum must have faith in our democratic system and have faith that the winter one without election fraud or foul play." what is special about this election that we are so concerned about that question? leon: it is obvious a lot of concerns have been raised about the election, whether it would be free and fair, whether there would be enough patients for all of the votes to be counted -- beience for all the votes to counted, whether it would be peaceful. as you heard, the president and others are already deploying lawyers. there is a lot of concern about ultimately whether or not this country can conduct a free and fair election and be able to determine a winner in the presidential race. i am confident that weekend, i really am. our state officials know their job, i have great confidence in their ability to be able to count votes, and to do it accurately. david: we do have a remarkable situation with over 100 million americans already loading ea

neil: you know there have been precedence, chuck hagel for one with president obama so it's not unthinkable often than not. whether i would be chosen, that's what i question. neil: senator flake, thank you for taking the time. we appreciate it, sir. >> glad to be on. neil: jeff flake, the beautiful state of arizona, the former senator there. we're following, meanwhile, other developments here, including i told you about the pentagon shake-up, the president tweeted out that he'd fired his defense secretary. could other heads roll? after this. >> all right. the transition of the defense department. the acting defense secretary after mark esper was fired via tweet, sent out a missive saying it's time to bring our troops home, referring to the middle east and high time that we recognize the end of war after war after war, the last part i'm sort of paraphrasing. joining us now on the pentagon shake-up, what are you hearing, lucas? >> when mark esper left earlier, his staff went with him and the new acting defense chief chris miller. we're waiting for more changes. 1 a.m. and the new message to t