well i mean the hague convention which russian federation has not ratified deals with the question of international adoption i think that when it comes to separation of the parents and divorce it is the responsibility of the judge in prison pronouncing of course separation to look into the matter of the child's best interests of the judge is opens all always a citizen of one of the two country as a judge should be objective and the best interests of the child should not be nationality related to this is mean and i don't see how you can lay there and it is down in an international treaty i think it is something which you must must if the responsibility and the authority to one additional authority to assess that. of course in europe we have the european court of human rights which ultimately can rule on compatibility of this issues of that kind or failure to decide with the rights of the child. but it should not be the ultimate rather matter remedied it should be should be addressed properly domestically have a good question i want to ask you. about the strategy that we had with those

living proof that the children need to come back home as quickly as possible, as it is in the hague convention. >> i was wondering as you were listening to sean talk about how during that time when he was in brazil he said he was confused. and he was wondering where his dad was. where you were. >> california. >> that had to be really hard to hear that. what emotions were you feeling? >> you know, it was very painful. the first time i saw him after nearly five years in brazil, he looked at me, and asked him, where i had been all this time. >> mm-hmm. >> and, you know -- >> because he didn't know the fight that you were waging here to get him back. >> no. and it wasn't his job or position to know the fight. his job is to just be a little boy, and now going to be a 12-year-old boy. but it is very painful. he was told that i didn't love him, i abandoned him, i never wanted him. then he became afraid to even ask, because there was the answer that he got were just too painful. so he had to just succumb to the abductors who are very manipulative and narcissistic and very cruel. it's a form of child a