so i did fly to key biscayne and haig and zeigler tried to put a lot of pressure on me to come in and take over all the water gate things because he was no longer credible. and i said i just didn't feel like i could do it because i had a new job and i owed something to my family as well. they said, well, fly on up to washington with us and let the president talk to you. so i got on air force one and met with the president. the president said, i know you got a new job and what do you think? i said i think it would be real hardship on me. i don't like to tell you no because i've never said no to something you've asked me to do and i thought was reasonable. and he said, well, ind that. he said that's fine. he started talking football with me. so he never put any pressure on me at all. >> but he also didn't talk to you about water gate. did you? >> no, he just -- the question was would i come in and help. he didn't talk about how to solve it, no, he didn't ask me. >> from june of '72 to this point, say early '74, did president nixon ever sit down and say -- he'd known you for years. say,