caitlyn jenner, it's great to spend time with you, lpga rules allow hailey davidson to compete, removedent in 2010 as long as the player has undergone hormone therapy and gender reassignment surgery. hailey has undergone both. playing in the rules, are the rules sound? >> oh, boy, john, here we go again. are the rules sound, i would say yes, the lpga is a different sport. i've been very consistent with how i've tried to approach this transgender athletes. it really depends on the sport. every sport is different. obviously we saw with lia thomas she had gone through male puberty, bigger cardiovascular system, it was just not fair. and fortunately we won that, we won that won. the world organization for controlled swimming, basically banned her, said you have to go through transition before you are the age of 12, you can't go through male puberty. now we come to golf. golf is a totally different game. it is a game of touch and feel. it is about your ability around the green to get the ball close, out of the bunker. your ability to putt, and the girls on the lpga tour, i've played in some

golfer hailey davidson is fighting to join the lpga tour.wimming, critics say davidson has an unfair advantage. we are joined live. so how did davidson do in the attempt to pick up the lpga? >> she did pick up some notoriety and some outrage trying to get the lpga court, but came up short. the 29-year-old trans golfer did qualify for the lower grade ep son tour, where at last check is not listed in the next epson tour event this friday in idaho. the trans golfer had gender reassignment surgery last year, and now hits it 15 miles per hour slower. she says her detractors have a fear of trans people. if i play bad, people will feel justified. oh, well, she played bad and was not good enough. if i do anything good, it won't be because of the fact i put my whole life into this, it would be because i'm trans. davidson critics say it does not matter what a trans female athlete ability is, you can't undo male puberty. >> the reason we separate men's and women's golfers for competition, and the reason why women's tees are often closer than men's tees