they are tied to the haka any network. >> it is a excrushiating process for the family. >> in the meantime as tough as the captivity has been for the u.s. military and family. should the americans be negotiating with terrorist. we'll talk to bob gray. i there michael. it is unprecedented and normally we might stage a raid to get him home and it doesn't appear we are doing that at this point. what does it tell us about his condition. >> it is unprecedented in terms of policy. but the washington post, the latest piece has positive connotations and negative ones that i think the u.s. needs to tread carefuly on. >> like what? >> for instance, you mentioned the previous report mentioned the ha cani network. they operate on the southeastern frontier of afghanistan. they are a known problem. we know that the pakistan military will not go into that area and refuse to conduct operations on the leadership of the network. and so that is a potential obstacle. >> that's why pakistan is not negotiating on our behalf to get this guy. but if we negotiate with the taliban, how can we be sure that they will