speakers included postmaster general lewis to joy, kevin mccarthy and hakeem jeffries. it is about 50 minutes. >>> ladies and gentlemen please welcome speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. house democratic leader, hakeem jeffries. postmaster general, louis dejoy. and mr. michael collins, chief of staff to the honorable john robert lewis. >> [ applause ] >> kevin mccarthy, speaker of the united states house of representatives. >> thank you very much. good afternoon. it is my privilege to recommend to the u.s. capital. we are honored to have with us the u.s. postmaster, . and linda early chastain to participate and share a special occasion. each of them is instrumental in honoring the legacy of congress ms. -- congressman luis and having the special stamp. commemorative stamps are more than just pieces of paper with pictures on them. they tell stories. they honor heroes and they capture important moments in history. we are honoring and extraordinary contributions to the american people. an inspiring future generations to follow his lead. i want to thank you for joining us

open for the next 45 days. >> i would love to get your point of views on what we just heard from hakeem jeffries. rakeem jeffries, the minority leader, putting it clear that he saw this as a victory to vote for the passage of this house measure. still, it's on its way to the senate. unclear whether it will pass. the conventional wisdom is it looks like all systems are go for that. but the vote has to actually happen. what are your thoughts on the confidence level that we're getting, both from the house minority leader and the house speaker, kevin mccarthy as well? >> look, for the minority leader, hakeem jeffries, this is a huge win and a very big day. he kept his entire conference together except for one single vote. he basically dictated the survival of this government for another few days or weeks, at least. he avoided the shutdown. he personally made that happen, in part, by doing a procedural equivalent of a filibuster, talking for nearly an hour to give his conference members a chance both to strategize, but also to read the bill. they prevented what had been, as recently as 48 hours ago,

but hakeem jeffries there saying it didn't have to be here.e posed the rhetorical question of, you know, why are we here? help us understand why it is we are here some 11 hours before a potential government shutdown if not for passage of at least this measure they are now considering? >> reporter: once again, congress is very good at delaying things. that is exactly what happened. what you are seeing on the floor right now is hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader using his so-called magic minute. the reason it's called the magic minute is you never know how long leaders will go using that device. democrats are trying to continue working with their colleagues over in the senate and the white house to try to understand the best path forward right now. they are still going through this legislation, still trying to understand if it indeed is just exactly as house speaker kevin mccarthy and republican leaders described it. they have some trust issues with this speaker. you heard from jeffreys just a few moments ago where he said we could have avoi

minority leader hakeem jeffries spoke about it.d to say on the floor. >> well on the brink of a government shutdown,, and at the 11th hour, legislation is dropped on the american people. and we are told that you have five or ten minutes to evaluate legislation that is more than 70 pages long, and expected simply to trust the word of our extreme, maga republican colleagues. the american people deserve better. they deserve better. [applause] and so, we are working, and evaluating that legislation. >> it looks like they did work through, and evaluate that legislation. and nbc news can now report that house democratic leadership is encouraging members to vote yes, on this. they have found their way to yes, they are putting on a huge vote here, 187 democrats voting yes, just one voting no. the bill has crossed the threshold that it needs, just little we can see here. more than 300 votes. it is cross the threshold it needs, in order to pass. we cannot call yet until the gavel drops. unless a whole bunch of members vote, and suddenly swit

i don't see hakeem jeffries doing him any favors anymore. after the president of the united states two days before the government runs out of money? like, the first hearing is two days before the government runs out of money? i think that there is no good we'll right now. it would be a pretty big feat to be able to convince him to save his speakership. because, also, what is it that the democrats -- i mean, for them, they just get to sit by, eat some popcorn, watch kevin mccarthy get killed, watch them go through possibly 15 more votes to stay at speaker because they may not be able to get -- or someone random comes up there, someone more right wing, or just -- it's another disaster and now they have to reopen the government? who, by the way, is going to call the vote to open the government? so many problems that they can just enjoy. of >> course, actually, you think hakeem jeffries and all democrats would have tremendous -- what do you actually think? >> i think kevin mccarthy backed himself into this corner when he made these deals with th

the house minority leader, hakeem jeffries. sole stumbling block to preventing a government shutdown is house republicans. >> the continuing resolution, 75 plus pages, that includes, by our understanding, merely funding for emergency disaster relief. how much has that been read through? how long will that take? has that been completed? you know that stance? >> the republicans have a 72-hour rule, this must have 72 hours to review legislation. we have not even received a 72 minutes. this is all been rushed. and we have reason to believe, the clean ciara's not as clean as the republicans are advertising it to be. it's a dirty cer. the republicans have the audacity to include in the cer, a pay increase for members of congress. why on earth would republicans include a pay increase when millions of americans are in danger of being furloughed, forced to work without pay? i think that's deeply offensive. >> i can understand that. i think a lot of americans might feel the same way. are you confident that something will get resolved? gr

. >> well -- >> and hakeem jeffries, the minority leader hakeem jeffries tonight said that all options are on the table. there is a chance that democrats push a discharge petition, wwpd. what would pelosi do? she would say i got that senate bill cooking over there, and he learned from her. he's ready to play. discharge petition, push through that senate bill, majority democratic vote, and that immediately triggers matt gaetz, who wants to be governor of florida, in favor of shutting down the government, saying, bye bye, kevin. you know who is the respeaker, if hakeem jeffries solves this, the real speaker is hakeem jeffries every anyway. apparently, is show biden, because according to the cabinet, joe biden is speaker. >> it might not be the house of can't for that much longer. >> hello. >> can you just stay for the whole hour, ladies? i know you can't. you have other things to do. clare and joy, my friends, colleagues and wise soothsayers, predictors, halloween that diners, thank you for your time and thoughts tonight. we have a lot more this evening, including the growing list of sen

we'll talk to minority leader hakeem jeffries. just five seats away from taking the gavel. he's leading a strikingly unified house minority while the actual speaker of the house, mccarthy, struggle to keep together a loudly divided republican majority. while democrats expressed outrage over the impeachment inquiry the special counsel appointed by biden's own attorney general indicted the president's son hunter on charges that he lied about being drug free when he purchased a gun in 2018. all this is going down as congress appears to be barrelling toward a government shutdown. if that happens, democrats will blame republicans. but congressional chaos can hurt the economy and that's not good for president biden regardless of who's to blame. we'll get to all including donald trump's latest legal troubles. but we begin with a kooem jeffries, the top democrat in the house, mr. leader, thank you for joining us. i want to start with those new charges against the president's son hunter, as you know republicans have been saying that hunter biden was getting special treatment. as the

i don't see hakeem jeffries doing him any favors anymore. literally going after the president of the united states two days before the government runs out of money? the first hearing is two days before the government runs out of money? i think there is no good will right now. it would be a pretty big feat to convince him to save his speakership. also, what does it get the democrats? for them, they just get to sit by, eat some popcorn, watch kevin mccarthy get killed, watch him go through possibly 15 more votes to stay as speaker or some random gets this there, someone even more right wing. it's another disaster. and then they'd have to reopen the government. and who, by the way, is going to call the vote to open the government? so many problems that they can just enjoy. >> of course, ashley, you think hakeem jeffries and all democrats will have tremendous goodwill towards speaker mccarthy. i'm kidding. what do you think? >> i think kevorkian kev bin mccarthy backed himself with the deals to become speaker. he wouldn't be in the situation if

. >>> democratic house leader hakeem jeffries joins me. >>> but we begin with breaking news tonight.ge tanya chutkan, presiding over donald trump's federal election interference case, has rejected trump's request for her to recuse herself in the case. judge chutkan's thorough rebuke that he should be prosecuted and imprisoned. it's trump's second defeat by a judge in just two days. yesterday's ruling by a new york judge, an attorney general latitia james civil lawsuit against trump undercut one of his most consequential myths, the lie that trump was in real life the character that he played on tv for 14 seasons on the apprentice. billionaire, successful real estate developer, a wise businessman. but the truth was, and still is, that the twice-impeached, four times indicted, civilly liable for sexual abuse former president has been none of those things. in his scathing, 35-page ruling, judge arthur n. gordon found that trump committed repeated acts of fraud for years as he massively overvalued his assets and net worth by billions of dollars in his financial statements. the judge said

. >> house democratic leader hakeem jeffries spoke with reporters after the house failed to move theatest spending bill. he discussed the fiscal situation as well as ukrainian president zelensky's visit to capitol hill. here are his remarks. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for your patience. earlier today, house democrats and house republicans, in a meeting that was hosted by speaker mccarthy, met with president zelensky of ukraine. it was a very candid, open, forward-looking discussion. we were able to talk about the importance of continuing to stand behind the ukrainian people and aggressively pushing back against this war of aggression that's been launched by vladimir putin and russia. the conflict between ukraine and russia is important in terms of standing behind the ukrainian people as it relates to the territorial dynamics that are at issue, but of course the war of aggression launched by russia involves other dynamics that are more important. our values are at stake. we've seen the strength and courage on the battlefield and the population. it's a struggle between ukrain

people of our great country get all of the good things that they need, our leader, minority leader hakeem jeffries. [applause] mr. jeffries: i emerge from the back. thank you, chairman thompson, for your extraordinary leadership in the gun violence prevention task force to congresswoman rosa delauro who is championing ethan's law to -- ethan's law. to the family, ethan's family and mom, to all the advocates who are here. we are going to continue as house democrats joined by the advocate community to confront the gun violence epidemic with the fierce urgency of now. extreme maga republicans unfortunately continue to bury their heads in the sand as children and young people and everyday americans succumb to the gun violence epidemic in this great country. every year, tens of thousands of americans, innocent individuals, family members, friends, neighbors, co-workers, lose their lives to gun violence. america has 4% of the world's population, but 40% of the world's guns. that means dollar over 400 million guns circulating throughout this country. many of them unsecured. millions of children and young

. >> and molly, one thing you could say about hakeem jeffries' comments, there are some misgivings on the democratic side about funding for ukraine being excluded from this stop-gap spending measure, this continuing resolution which i guess has to get passed to keep the government running. but mike quigley was saying this afternoon that putin is celebrating the fact this ukraine aid was cut out of the compromise, that the reagan doctrine is dead in the republican party. we were talking to jake, death boldin earlier on. they're not happy about this. they're all but insisting this get done before they vote one more time on this continued resolution. there is some grumbling on the democratic side about this. >> yeah. and there's even more grumbling from super maga mitch mcconnell. he is quite furious about there and said he would vote it down. so yes, i think this is, you know, i don't know how they fix this. it seems like there might be, i saw sheldon whitehouse thinking about how there may be some other way to thread this needle. i'm glad the democrats are taking this as a win because

. >> have you talked to jeffries or any democrats about -- >> i talked to hakeem yesterday, i talked to a number of democrats yesterday. they kept from a standpoint didn't want -- they want to do ukraine as well. i think that can happen at a different day. i watched the senate, they said let's wait for the senate. the senate cannot bring us a bill before shutdown. they cannot get -- government will shutdown if we wait. i do not want that on our watch. i think this country is too important. i know the house has done their work, the senate has not. the senate hasn't passed one appropriation bill, and all of you have written these great raving stories about how great the appropriation is going in the senate. they tried all month. they said they could get something going here. they can't get anything to us. so you know what? i'll put the american people first. we will finish our job. i will keep the house in to keep working on our appropriations bills, get it done during that time. but the senate better get their work done, and the border has got to get secure. >> mr. speaker, if this bi

. >> next, house leader hakeem jeffries speaks about the importance of president zelenskyy's meeting with house lawmakers. he also talked about possible government shutdowns and threats mccarthy's leadership. s visit to capitol hill. here are his remarks.

i want to get your response first evolved with the top of democrat hakeem jeffries just said you heard he calls it a civil war among republicans in the house, what you think? >> it's a little like the civil war except it's only a fraction of one estate that seems to want to leave the union. this is a very small group that says they want more but are willing to have spend more money rather than less money by shutting down the government. the vast majority of republicans not only support the defense appropriations bill as it is the continued resolution as we negotiate to try to rain and government spending. be centrist for if he wants a should government shutdown we will avert a shut down and continue to negotiate to try to get back to a sensibility in the government. we are $8 trillion in deficit. that number boggles anyone's imagination to try to figure out what it is. you're not trying to get it to zero but we are trying to get headed in the right direction. some thing the president said he wants but has not put forward a budget to do. jon: would you suspect you will get all of this d

but there's been sort aof a rotating cast and we just saw hakeem jeffries inside the local union hall speaking to workers and then out here on the picket line i had a conversation with him just moments ago. take a listen. the union has really not backed down from their demand. the negotiations are all about compromise. do you think they have to compromise a little bit to get the deal done? >> as president obama indicated, uaw workers bailed out these companies. they are around today because of the sacrifices made by the uaw and it's time that the uaw benefit from the fruits of their labor and their sacrifice. >> reporter: you've already seen some of the big three have to idle workers and lay off workers as a result of these targeted strikes. i wonder, are you concerned at all -- i know you're here in support of these folks on the picket lines but are you concerned at all about the economic impact on the industry, on the economy, especially as folks are still grappling with high inflation. >> there's pain and sacrifice involved in any righteous struggle and this is a struggle that isr

. >> later house democratic leader hakeem jeffries. this is about 15 minutes. mr. jeffries: good afternoon, everyone. maga republicans have launched an i will legitimate inquiry that is a kangaroo court and conspiracy theater rolled into one. there is not a shred of evidence that president biden has engaged in wrongdoing. there is not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has committed an impeachable offense. there is not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has committed a crime. this is an illegitimate impeachment, period, full stop. it is a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. extreme maga republicans have no economic agenda. they have no housing agenda. they have no health care agenda. they have no education agenda. they have no public safety agenda. they have no agenda designed to address the needs of the american people. we were sent to washington, d.c., to improve the quality of life of every day americans. the extreme maga republicans are determined to illegitimately investigate the president as part of an ideological crews aid that week after

. >> the house minority leader hakeem jeffries held a press conference in response to house speaker kevin mccarthy's impeachment inquiry into president biden. leader jeffries also discusses the september 30 deadline to fund the government. minutes. mr. jeffries: good >> good afternoon, extreme republicans have launched an illegitimate impeachment inquiry that is a kangaroo court fishing expedition and conspiracy theory dear -- theater rolled into one. if there is not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has engaged in wrongdoing. there is not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has committed an impeachable offense. offense. there is not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has committed a crime. this is an illegitimate impeachment, period, full stop. it is a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. extreme maga republicans have no economic agenda. they have no housing agenda. they have no health care agenda. they have no education agenda. they have no public safety agenda. they have no agenda designed to address the needs of the american people. we were sent to washing

well, speaker mccarthy, i'm here >> later, house democratic leader hakeem jeffries responded to speaker mccarthy's comments. this is about 15 minutes. mr. jeffries: maga republicans have created a piece of theater. there's not a shred of evidence that president joe biden has engaged in wrongdoing. there's not a shred of evidence that joe biden has committed an impeachable offense. there's not a shred of evidence that president biden has committed a crime. this is an illegitimate impeachment inquiry. period. full stop. it's a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. extreme maga republicans have no economic agenda. they have no housing agenda. they have no health care agenda. they have no education agenda. they have no public safety agenda. they have no agenda designed to address the needs of the american people. we were sent to washington, d.c. to improve the quality of life of everyday americans. the extreme maga republicans are determined to illegitimately investigate the president. as part of an ideological crusade that week after week after week continues to do nothing more than try to j

here's what house minority leader hakeem jeffries had to say this afternoon. the path that republicans chose. >> house republicans decided to go it alone. fight a civil war. stand on an island on your own. we want the american people to know, we are gonna do everything possible to stop extreme maga republicans from shutting down the government. [applause] we are fighting on their behalf. to put people over politics. >> the sad part is, speaker mccarthy still might lose his job at the hands of the same far-right members that he spent weeks trying to appease. far-right members like congressman matt gaetz could invoke a motion to vacate, that could end mccarthy's run and speaker. but it wasn't until the brink of shutdown that the speaker attempted to show some leadership to the critics within his caucus. >> if somebody wants to remove, because i want to be the adult in a room, go ahead and try. but i think this country is too important. if i have to risk my job for standing up for the american public, i will do that. >> when it took a historic 15 votes to confirm

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but there are so many moving parts today, you're seeing the minority -- house minority leader, hakeem jeffries, who has been using his magic minute to speak to the chamber there, imploring that all of this was avoidable, there could have been some bipartisan effort to keep government spending well before this juncture, but here we all are. let's get to cnn's lauren fox on capitol hill. brand new reporting that you have about not just what's going on in the house, but apparently what's happening in the senate, and how all of this is coming together. what's going on? >> reporter: let me paint a picture for viewers at home. basically there's been a delay in both the house and senate. they had two separate bills that were moving on two different tracks, and eventually both sides were trying to wait out the other one to see who would go first in this showdown. what you are watching right now happened on the house floor is a delay, as democrats think about whether or not they're going to support that short-term spending bill that house speaker kevin mccarthy announced earlier this morning. but we ju

is there a world in which cover mccarthy figures out that he can go to hakeem jeffries, the minorityll and be done with it? >> you may have to do that, but then he would have to have a joint governance agreement of the house, because then he would lose a lot of his members and the democrats are going to be united around i--- who has done a phenomenal job in keeping our caucus united. it's a study in contrast. we have everyone from the centrists to the progressives marching under the same drumbeat on the key issues, with hakeem jeffries and the president, and they're in disarray. >> the thing is, at this point, kevin mccarthy is not the speaker of the house. some combination of matt gaetz and marjorie greene or the speaker. and so i wonder for the democratic caucus, what is the plan on the democratic side? because the democrats cannot pass a bill in the house. they do not have the majority. but is there a backup plan? is there a backup plan that you're talking with, with some republicans on the other side? the few that are not absolutely mad, to actually make sure that we don't have a

please welcome the speaker of the house of representatives, governor of nebraska james pillen, hakeem jeffries, adrian smith, and nora london black. [applause] please be seated. ladies and gentlemen, the honorable kevin mccarthy, speaker of the united states house of representatives. [applause] >> i know you are excited, but i am more excited. this is the first statue i get to do as being speaker. if you followed it, it took me a while to get there. this is special. good morning and thank you for joining us for this you know, every state since two statues, extraordinary citizens at the u.s. capitol are represented in washington. by law, the statues have to be made of ron's or marble. but make -- bronze or marble. but make no mistake, these men and women are present our national memory, patriotism, and our shared american greed -- creed, e pluribus unum, out of many, one. as we welcome willa cather to the capitol, i also want to welcome several special guests in the audience. first, we are honored to be joined by members of the cather family. i also want to welcome the nebraska governor and the

>> house minority leader hakeem jeffries also talked with reporters about a potenti

look, if they can't find a speaker, we've got a great speaker in hakeem jeffries.america got to see him for several hours, talk about the major accomplishments of the democrats have been able to score over the last several years. even when we had a very narrow margin, equivalent to the one they've got, now we did 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure plan. we reduced health care cost. we did the biggest climate action package in the history of the world. so, we've got to move, forward we don't have time for the authoritarian nonsense anymore. the autocrats and the plutocrats and the theocratic have nothing to offer america. so, we've got to move forward. >> let me ask you about ukraine funding real quick here. the final question mccarthy was, where do you stand on ukraine funding? he talked again about the blank check. this is something that he has said repeatedly. i don't think anybody supporting a blank check. to ukraine, talk about how checks and balances go when it comes to funding ukraine. and the importance of funding this war in ukraine in defense of russia's i

and certainly, there is compromise at the table, but i will respect the leadership of hakeem jeffries and get back to session tomorrow. maybe that is on the discussion docket as a caucus. we will see. >> and you a michigander, and you are expecting president biden to come and go on the picket line with the uaw workers and so is donald trump, the rival in the 2024 presidential election, and so he is coming to the picket liness. should they do that? >> i think that the actions of a twice impeached president who is afraid to debate his opponents is peculiar. he lost michigan by 120,000 votes, and he tried to contest the results of the elections and we are seeing that those who engaged that conspiracy going through the legal ramifications of that action that they took. i am very proud of president biden. he has been one of the most pro union presidents, and his administration is clearly having labor at the table. starting with the infrastructure bill all of the way to the c.h.i.p.s act, and he is going to be listening to the hard working men and women of the ua with, uaw, and this is what

that was the house democratic leader, hakeem jeffries. we are watching this situation in the senate right now very closely. that's where there could be a vote very soon to prevent a government shutdown. of course, it is not done until it's done. and right now, it's not done. so stay with us. >>> welcome back. the nation's capital is in a bit of a holding pattern right now. lawmakers on capitol hill have backed away from the brink of a government shutdown. the white house has signalled the president will sign it but it has to get through the senate first. that has not happened yet. let's talk about this with david gergen, adviser to nixon, reagan, ford and clinton. it's not supposed to work like this. it is kind of outrageous that here we are again on the brink of yet another government shutdown. and they can't get their act together. and i know a lot of this is driven in the house with the republicans in that conference who are not willing to compromise. there was compromise today. if you can reflect at all in just how ridiculous thing ha

hakeem jeffries tell you to cause a scene? after the investigation is.ove to see accountability, this is a little funny, is a lot of ironic but the speaker has been walking around as a man defeated for a couple of days, i do know you will make it to christmas as speaker. our government won't shut down but it's going to be funded plus, there's a lot going on up there. i don't know this is what i want to focus on, i didn't care to hear the speaker talk about it because i want to know -- i don't know if it's 20 some odd republicans objecting to everything he puts forth, i want to see he can lead and get them together on ukraine or something to bring them back together and have a party or caucus in congress. >> absolutely and he's facing criticism so you are right. the speaker needs to get back on the horse, unify republican party and find a way to appease those going up against him and i don't know if he will be able too but -- not all of them and that's it. i think the american people are watching taking place and they will make their decisions. >> they ar

hakeem jeffries hasn't. colleagues on both sides of the aisle, they're very appreciative. people come up all the time saying, thank you, you may be the ones that get us out of this. there is a group of us that are prepared to do what it takes to get our bill on the floor. >> can you convince hard liners who are saying -- >> we only need 218 votes. we don't need 435. if you can't get 218 in your conference, you go for 218 in the congress. we focus on 218 in the congress. there's a lot of ways to get to 218. >> how much does a government shutdown hurt your party? >> it hurts america. forget which party it hurts. it hurts america. i lived through a government shutdown. my last assignment was out in the l.a. division. we had to pull people off wiretaps, physical surveillance routes, which decimates cases. when you have a gap of evidence for 30 days, that's very, very devastating to an investigation. that's just the fbi perspective, not to mention what it does to faa, for flight safety, what it does to cvp and the border patrol ask apprond the border. every agency will be impac

we know that hakeem jeffries, minority lead are hakeem jeffries just arrived across the street at the uaw local. and we're also hearing that acting labor secretary julie sue actually headed to detroit at some point in this coming week to try to help move these negotiations along. president of the uaw says he wants to work out a deal with the big 3 without help but president biden sending administration official before this escalates even further. >> rose's comments there, they really hit home. a big appreciation to her honesty and candor there on what life is like and the purpose of why she and others are striking. let's get more analysis now on the strike and the hope and the negotiations. i'm joined now by cindy, a professor at the law school in michigan. how is this being interpreted if you're one of the big three automakers? >> well, her comments really go to the big pay disparity between the ceo, the higher level executives and the rank and file. and i think that 40% number comes from the amount of raises that the executives were enjoying over the last four years or so so i think

. >>> house minority leader hakeem jeffries is painting this as a loss for what he calls extreme blacka republicans. >> we're on a path to avoid a catastrophic extreme maga republican shutdown, and to continue to meet the need of the american people. the american people have won. the extreme maga republicans have lost. it was a victory for the american people and a complete and total surrender by right-wing extremists who throughout the year have tried to hijack the congress. moving forward we will continue to work in a bipartisan way to discuss a year-end spending agreement consistent with our values. meeting the needs of the american people, solving problems on their behalf, and putting people over politics. that is what the spending agreement that passed the house floor today has accomplished, and moving forward that will be our guiding principle in getting things done for the american people. >> and joining me is republican congressman tim burchet from tennessee. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. you voted no on this bill, i reckon. i don't know if you were just listeni

hakeem jeffries hasn't speaker mccarthy has, and call example size of the aisle.re very appreciative i can tell you talking to people coming up in the for talking to us all the time. you may be the ones who help us get out of this. the clock is ticking, we only have a few days left. i will tell you that there is a group of us that are prepared to do what it takes to get our bill on the floor should this not be resolved. >> but can you convince those hard-liners? >> we only need 218 votes. we don't need for 35, we need to 30 to 18. if you can't get to 18 in your conference, you go 4 to 18 in the congress. we focus on 2:18 in the congress, there's a lot of ways to get to 18. >> i must as a government shutdown hurt your party? >> it hurts america, forget what party it hurts. it hurts america. i lived through a government shutdown as an fbi agent. my last assignment was out on the alley division, and we had to pull people off wiretaps, we have to pull people off physical surveillance wire wiretapped. that decimated cases. we have a gap of evidence for 30 days, it's ve

. >> laura: hakeem jeffries talking about my next guest committee chair jim jordan.ongressman you laid out for republicans today where the biden investigation on impeachment stands. what can you tell us clearly so the people watching tonight can understand. >> there's so many facts that warrant going to this phase of our constitutional duty to do oversight, and that's why the speaker didn't. i find it interesting this announcement from david weiss comes two days after the speaker announces we're opening an impeachment inquiry. there are all kinds of those coincidences that happen along the way. but what happened today with david weiss, this was an attempt to save face. remember then could text here, first there was going to be no charges against hunter biden. then the sweetheart deal they take to the judge and the judge precludes you from that. so then the person who was behind all that, we're going to make that individual the special counsel so of course he has to do something and does this. it's largely a distraction from the berg issue, the fara issue and the felo

capitol, with the democratic leader hakeem jeffries there.hich is notable because the republican house speaker, kevin mccarthy is not hosting a larger forum with zelenskyy with house members. that was the democratic leader, hakeem jeffries walking alongside zelenskyy. we have team coverage this morning all over washington and ukraine. let's go to lauren fox first on capitol hill where president zelenskyy just arrived. lauren? >> reporter: and this is an important meeting in part because he is going to be making his case for why ukraine needs more support from the united states at a critical time when house speaker kevin mccarthy has made clear that he is not necessarily committed to moving any short term spending bill with ukraine aid. in fact, the plan that was revealed last night in republican conference doesn't include any of that supplemental request from the white house, $24 billion in additional humanitarian and military support. it isn't going to be the same picture we saw last year when zelenskyy came to capitol hill, was hosted by ho

jon: that explanation seems very fishy but i would imagine minority leader hakeem jeffries will have to have a talk with the congressman as well because he was in the process of exercising that the magic minute was doing the very thing that is allowed to do there on the floor to buy some time to get through to buy 90 minutes instead of 15 minutes the democrat said look, we don't trust what you potentially could have thrown into that measure, to this proposal. i think that is unnecessary when you call that in football and unnecessary air? unforced error in tennis perhaps. and that is a good point though, arthel.loo put look at the polis of this. the democrats even though they got on with republicans here, they pass this bipartisan bill it's not everything the democrats wanted. they might have lost the message here. democrats were in essence winning this. democrats usually prepare when there's a government shutdown. they were able to come together kevin mccarthy and provide the votes with catherine clark the democrat whip said that came to the rescue of the republicans but what are peo

in fact, it's been the president and our leader, hakeem jeffries, and, others who have been negotiating to try to keep the government open. so we can put this on us. now we know that he has had some severe problems with his maga extremist republicans, they have got us to this point. >> a lot of those problems, congresswoman, started when he became elected as the speaker. we're talking about 15 rounds of unprecedented number of voting rounds to try to even get into the speakership. was that just a set up for failure, that sort of pave the way for where we are now in terms of kevin mccarthy's speakership been so fragile, in a way that he can't even lead his own party against a relatively small group of non marketable -- who are insistent in terms of hijacking his claims? >> yes, as you know, during the speakership vote, i was a teller. democrats are two tellers, republicans had to tellers. i sat there for three or four days counting, and watch and what was taking place. through the 15 rounds, we still don't know what those deals were at that kevin mate. we don't know what was insisted on,

hakeem jeffries should he talked about how bad the problem is. that's how i would do it.ump is encouraging house republicans to shut the government down. is that the best way to go about this. >> i don't think anybody want to shut down. another thing we can add to the bill, another thing we can add to the bill put on the same bill that i describe say nobody can be used to target your political opponent which is exactly what jack smith is doing to president trump. joe biden supports that put that question there, president biden you think it's okay to have american tax dollars used to walk to your political opponent, put that on the bill as well i think that gets republican support and may not get democrats support because they like the idea of weaponize government against the opposition. i could put that on the bill to, those are the kinds of things that make sense and the american people support no one wants to shut down what we want is to do the things of the american people sent us to do. stuart: hunter biden will appear in court for his arraignment on gun charges. wher

later on "this week," john speaks with hakeem jeffries and republican representative nancy mace about shutdown threat looming. much more. plus martha raddatz with an in-depth exit interview with joint chiefs of staff mark milley. janai. >> janai: turning overseas now to the humanitarian disaster in libya. that nation opening an investigation into the dam collapses caused by torrential rain, the death toll reported to more than 10,000 with thousands more still missing. abc's ian pannell joins us live on the ground this morning. ian, good morning. >> reporter: it's really hard to get your head around the scale of what's happened here, janai, throughout this entire region, we're only a couple of hours away from the epicenter of the disaster, you see everywhere that's been affected. cars overturned, houses with holes punched through, as people come to terms with what's happened, they're still grappling with the consequences. this morning, desperate search and recovery efforts are under way in libya. more than 11,000 men, women and children are dead. 9,000 still missing according to the wo

he should give a call to hakeem jeffries. i've been through this before. when port ryan was the speaker and nancy pelosi was the democratic leader, they couldn't put it together with just their votes, the same way kevin's dealing with right now. i was in everett when nancy pelosi called paul ryan and said, law, quake and help as long as you found at least one of our priorities. they said yes and she sent over to paul ryan's office to negotiate for the flint word across this relief. and we deliver the votes because we came together. some were our priorities, some work there was. why speaker mccarthy just can't take a page out of recent history and realize it takes compromise. it takes democrats and republicans to do the final deal, so let's just do it now. >> that's what don bacon said this morning. that's what mark sanford, an all-time tea party member said this morning. it's congress, you're not getting 100% of what you want. that's at nonstarter. that's not going to happen. and look, you tell me. i'm hearing that what you just talked about, about what ha

negotiations are going on between the speaker and hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader.oing to inform us as to what the validity of any arguments may be, what the viability of any approaches might be. we want to keep the government open, and i would challenge anybody to give me one instance in the 30 years i have been here when you've heard a democrat advocating for closing down the government. that's not the way they do business. we sit down, we negotiate, we try to find common ground, and we go forward from there. this whole notion of voting things down, threatening people, bullying people, we just don't approach governance that way. we try to maintain an atmosphere of goodwill and hope we can find common ground. and if the speaker were to do that, i think he'd find a listening ear in leader jefferies. >> what sort of compromise? i know you're not negotiating it, but what would you want to see? what sort of concessions would you want to see in order for you to feel comfortable tabling a motion or not voting at all? >> first of all, i want to see us keep the deal. the d

>> house minority leader hakeem jeffries also talked with reporters about a potential government shutdown. and an impeachment inquiry into president biden. mr. jeffries: earlier today house democrats met with secretary becerra. it was an illustration of the two different approaches that house democrats and house republicans are taking as it relates to solving problems of the american people. house democrats met with secretary becerra to talk about implementation of our efforts to negotiate lower drug prices for everyday americans. to strengthen access to affordable health care. and to discuss our efforts around things like capping the cost of insulin for everyday americans at $35 a month. that's how house democrats spent this morning. house republicans spent this morning talking about their illegitimate impeachment inquiry, which is nothing more than a partisan political stunt. there's no evidence of wrongdoing. with respect to president biden. and they spent the morning talking about shutting down the government. which will crash the economy and hurt everyday americans. house democrats a

we understood from her house leadership, from hakeem jeffries and others that democrats then ready to help kevin mccarthy live to fight another day, if reasonable bills show up. >> i think that is perhaps maybe a hypothetical down the line. what i don't like to see happen is all 213 house democrats, ban together with at least five or so called republican moderates. i know at election time, they keep talking about how moderate they are and how independent they supposedly are. here is a chance to prove it. if they don't want the government shutdown, banned can be other with us. let's do a 30 to 60-day continuing resolution, open-ended pro democratic amendments and their. nobody should put any pro republican amendments there. we should keep things as they are, by some time, ensured that we don't have a government shutdown. if they are willing to do that, we can forefront this government shutdown. >> so your leadership, the democratic leadership can save this for kevin mccarthy possible, but in order to get that deal of five plus democratic votes, notice whatever deal they make, it will p