in mombasa, kenya, shipeta mathias, a rapid response officer at haki africa, which is a rights groupsupports cult victims in kenya. in portland, in the u.s., is diane benscoter. she joined a religious movement whose members are known as "the moonies" when she was 17 years old. diane is now the founder of "antidote," a nonprofit that exposes the dangers of psychological manipulation. and in greater manchester, in the u.k., is linda dubrow-marshall, a clinical psychologist and senior lecturer at the university of salford. thank you to all three of you for joining us. diane, in oregon, let me start with you, please. you were once part of the unification church, whose members are commonly known as "the moonies.” many, including in japan and europe, see them -- see it as a cult, but in south korea, where it was founded, it's considered legally as a religion. can you tell us first, diane, what defines a cult and how you identify it? >> i think that there are a lot of definitions of what a cult is. it's often an extremist belief system and a community of people that are pretty isolated. but