, no democrat in the state was a star rising faster, there was talk at the time that hal hardin might run for governor sooner or later. certainly a democrat and joe henry at the end of the day. >> joe henry. >> the chief justice of the supreme court. >> and equated the election to a plague of locusts. he was right about that. >> bob henry was here a little earlier in the room, his brother joe henry, sons of chief justice joe henry, joe jr. told me when they were kids their dad, when it was time to leave and get in the car last one to the car is a republican. and so my point simply that there was -- it became clear to me that at the end of the day during the afternoon, if any one of them had said no, if any of them had said no it would not have happened. >> let me ask about the two of them. they know what is going on. you got that call in october or november that if you -- on the other hand, there are bound to be concerns in their mind that the constitution says get rid of the governor, there are bound to the concerns in their minds with democrats, do we want to be involved in this and

to pick because of for the principal were, the two speakers both very senior democrats, it was hal hardin, as lamar just said, no democrat was a star rising faster than hal, bill leech certainly democrat. and joe henry at the end of the day. spent joe haddock of the chief justice -- >> of the supreme court who administered -- >> he compared his election to a plague of locusts. [laughter] he was right about that. >> bob haney was here earlier, his brother, joe henry, these are sons of chief justice joe henry. joe, jr. told me that when they were kids there dad, when it's time to go leaving get in the car, he said the last one to the car is a republican. [laughter] so my point is simply, what became clinton was at the end of the day, during the afternoon, if anyone of them have said no, if anyone of them have said no, it would not have happened. >> let me ask you and hal about the two of them. they know what's going on there to have that call in october, november and they're saying if you need my help. on the other hand, there are bounds -- there are bound to be concerned in their mind abou