. >> charlie:we continue with mark hal pir in, maggie haberman of politico. i'm pleased to have them here. i cannot think of anybody i would rather talk to you trying to underis a stand the dynamics of the political process coming out of the democratic convention. we taped this before the president speaks but we assume he's requesting to try to late out as much as he can the future. that's his role on thursday night. >> opening they saw coming out of tampa, roll out at some point before the general election. they made it clear the president was going to be a bit more specific what he would do in the second term. big are vulnerability for his re-election as his first 4 years people want a sense of what he would do differently. if he can convince a second term in working with republicans, in addressing the economy would have more promise than he's displayed 0 far, he has a good chance ever winning. expect that not only be the message here but coming out of one of the weakest things about governor romney's -- no message out of. no single message remember what we