one of the things hal rogers was clear on is that is not quite it. there is still another step. just as we got more than 300 votes, which is a good thing. everybody's really happy. we are not done. there is another step you are. that is to vote for all of the numbers that trickle-down and hundreds of pages of appropriations bills that flesh spendinga topline number agreed to meet in real life. bills 13 appropriations put into one big omnibus package. >> it is an open question. ofy agreed to the spending $1 trillion. it has happened in the past where they have agreed in the voted against the very bill that was set at that spending level. a big issue has been the affordable care act and funding it. i asked the chairman whether he would find it. doesd indicate that he support legislation bills. it seems to be saying that he would fund the law. that is a big no-no for a lot of his members. whetherns to be seen they will still vote for a bill that funds obamacare. there's a very fine line to cross against the finish line. >> 169 republicans voted for it. are the odds of him turning a

. >> we want to welcome back to "newsmakers" house appropriations chairmen hal rogers, republican of kentucky. thank you, sir, for join us. >> thank you. >> two reporters here in studio to help with us, daniel newhauser is a congressional reporter for qc "roll call" and derek wallbank, congressional reporter with bloomberg news. derek, go ahead with the first question. question. >> mr. chairman, thank you for being here. as you know, the mood out of the capital is joyous right now practically. paul ryan and patty murry are both saying this will avert any shutdown fears for january 15 and possibly for october 1 as well. but that is not set in stone yet. there is still more to do. can you walk us through what the next steps are? >> you are right. that is a joyous atmosphere. it was a huge event. it breaks the logjam of getting away from these herky-jerky shutdown showdowns we been going through for all these months and years. the budget number is only the first step. they must take it and break it down for each agency and department of the government. we have to do that before january

this has been the elder statesmen of congress, particularly who think this guy hal rogers, kentucky thehairman of the appropriations mt and all of those guys -- luke can talk to this better, they have been griping about this not months, but years, the idea when you do the cr. first of all, it cost the country more money. i have a friend who is a nuclear engineer and he works in government contracts and works in the private sector, you have no idea how many times you start taen stop projects because they do -- and he just sits there, if you can fair a way to calculate the loss scholars, it is absurd. paul ryan is making that argument but of course, suddenly logic and rationality are breaking out in the leadership and not allowing the tail to wag the dog but they did for a long time. that is suddenly what's -- i think hurting them this morning when they are realizing we've got -- >> and it is, almost a technocratic defense. this is how it is -- >> michael dukakis. >> and this is better than the insanity. as your poll shows a lot of the country would agree with that because there's such a

hour, hal rogers on what is ahead for the appropriations process and 2014.at is coming up on newsmakers at 10:00 eastern. we're asking you about who had the worst year in politics. the washington post says it was president obama. a couple of responses by e-mail. this one is from sue in ohio. she says that we have the worst year in politics. we're the victims of a self- serving congress and it is no one's fault but ours, the voters. we must still get out and vote while we have that right. we have a couple more here. mona and florida says that you cannot be disappointed in president obama. republicans did everything to thwart the recovery. who will now vote for republicans? one more from robert in south carolina. issays lindsey graham, who under verbal assault for straying from the party line. democratic line in ohio. caller: i think the american people are the great losers. the battle is for the battle of the mind. thatwe look at the things are put on our minds day in and day out, it is just no good. everything is good guys and bad guys. like the american peo

it does not replace the full sequester, which chairman hal rogers has correctly described as ill-advised and unrealistic. i sat on this floor when we considered the gentleman's budget that if there were no democrats in the house of representatives, they could not implement that budget. i believe that. i believe it because the figures not related to priorities or vision or that which we needed to accomplish as a country, but on a number. 967. that's an opinion shared by all of the republican appropriation subcommittee chairmen and wrote a letter to that effect. nor does this agreement deal with the issue of the debt limit . . and which has historically been an infelix point to further reduce not only discretionary spending on both sides, mainly on the nondefense side, but also to reach once again into the pockets of federal employees. now, i'm someone who represents 62,000 federal employees, and i recommended zero colas the first two years we did zero colas. why? the economy was in trouble and it was necessary for federal employees, like everybody else, to participate. mr. van hollen: i y

. >> we want to welcome back to "newsmakers” house appropriations chairmen hal rogers, republican ofentucky. thank you, sir, for join us. >> thank you. >> two reporters here in studio to help with us, daniel newhauser is a congressional reporter for qc “roll call” and derek wallbank, congressional reporter with bloomberg news. derek, go ahead with the first question. question. >> mr. chairman, thank you for being here. as you know, the mood out of the capital is joyous right now practically. paul ryan and patty murry are both saying this will avert any shutdown fears for january 15 and possibly for october 1 as well.

as a matter of fact, chairman hal rogers, the chairman of the appropriations committee, said it best when he said the sequester cuts are ill-conceived and unrealistic. and that he believes that the house action, as indicated, that that is the case. we haven't done appropriation bills consistent with the sequester levels. that as i understand were agreed at williamsburg to be offered, but they haven't worked. my own view that, mr. speaker, what is being discussed in the budget conference some of the things i have heard strike me as being unbalanced, unfair, irresponsible, and unacceptable. unless we have a balanced agreement, which in my view should replace the sequester because, as the majority leader indicates, it is not the rational way to go. as mr. rogers indicates, not the rational way to go. and as every chairman of the appropriations subcommittee on the republican side, mr. speaker, have said it is not the way to go and ought to be replaced. so i'm hopeful that any agreement will, in fact, replace the sequester. i am hopeful, mr. majority leader, as you well know, that we will

another statement, this from the chairman of the appropriations committee, hal rogers, writes that chairsd murray should be commended on their agreement. this type of deal takes courage and resolve. and they have done their best, very best, to find common ground. not only does this deal hold the line on spending, it actually puts a dent in our annual deficit. a significant accomplishment. and in a moment we have some story in "the new york times" that writes, a little bit of a summary of what the agreement was about. the house and senate negotiators reached a budget deal that would raise military and domestic spending over the next two years. shifting the pain of the across-the-board cuts to other programs over the coming decade. and we have a caller coming in now on the democratic line. go ahead. barbara, hello. what's your comment about this budget deal? caller: i was pleased that congressman paul ryan and senator murray were able to negotiate an agreement. we have been really discouraged by how the senate and the house have not been able to work. and it's time now, and we are pleased t

thank the gentleman from kentucky, the chairman of the appropriations committee, hal rorges, for his work on this mesh -- rogers for his work on this measure, along with the help of the gentleman from louisiana, republican study committee chairman, steve scalise, for their hard work on the issue. i urge my colleagues to support this resolution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is ecognized. mrs. lowey: i am very pleased to yield tea minutes -- three minutes to the distinguished whip, mr. steny hoyer from maryland. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland is recognized for three minutes. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentlelady for yielding. madam speaker, today we are considering a measure to fund government only if the democratic senate and democratic president will agree to dismantle the health care reform law that will help millions of americans access quality, affordable care. that isn't going to happen. and it is a blatant act of hostage taking. the republican c.r. also lays the groundwork for a default on our debt, an unthinkable act, by ins