address, if you would, one of the comments from my opening statement, if this grandiose plan comes to hal sutton, and if there are some americans who believe it is not addressing their healthcare needs, and if they want to go visit a physician of their choosing and decide they want that physician to treat him or her for a specific illness or morality or problem, should they have the right to do that outside of the structure, mr. pollack? >> they should have that right. they may be required to pay an additional amount of money. >> if they want to use their own resources they ought to have that right? >> i do believe that. >> are you aware that isn't included in the present bill? would that give you pause? >> most health plans, even things like epos, we can go outside the network. i assume there will be retained. >> mr. scheck, you agree with that? does anyone in disagree americans ought to be able to opt out fifth they so desire? i was always frustrated when someone stepped between me and my patient and said you can't do that even though i felt it was in the best interest of the patient and the p