in key biscayne. >> and bob haldeman is the chief of staff? >> he is the chief of staff -- he has these young california guys and it is a homosexual ring and they all have huts, not huts, but little cabins near each other. in key biscayne. that is the story. i had never heard this. the fact that j. edgar hoover decided that the way to determine whether it was true -- j. edgar hoover has its own complicated sexual history -- was for him to interview each of these young california guys, blonde haired california guys, to ask them about this sexual preference, well, i nearly fell over my -- all you can hear is me stammer. i'm trying not to express my surprise at this story, which frankly i had never heard before and i have not seen anywhere else. so there it is. >> dwight chapin was in his 20's then and was the assistant to the president and went to prison. >> oh, yeah. >> what's he like today? >> what a story. mr. chapin, whom i didn't know before, was unlike charles colson, chuck colson, disarming and i think candid. he came to the interview whi