halderman, and it ends with a line that will live forever. cabot, how can we screw him? [ laughter ] >> did they try? do they have any ideas? >> actually, they didn't -- here's what happened, and i'm so glad you asked. about a year ago -- i mean, about a year later. way back then, a lady on my staff ran into another lady on my staff and she said i've got problems. i'm really suffering from having been audited. and the other lady said when were you audited. and she told her, and she said i was, too. i realized the son of a b -- the president had decided to use, in one of his hobbies was using the irs illegally, punish my staff. and what the late joan crawford would call the little people, would suffer quite a bit from the audit. but he still did. [ laughter ] >> i'm sorry. >> evan, how old were you when all this was happening. >> watergate, so i was 22, 23, 24? >> so were you already a reporter then? >> i was briefly. i was a reporter for the borgen record. and i got arrested -- they didn't want to arrest the kids, and they arrested me, the report instead. and when i free