let's begin with alex haley. alex haley, his book was a seminal work that moved millions of young americans, not just african-americans, moved human beings to understand the struggle about oppressed people and a sense of being african-american and where you stood and why you stood there and what you had to fight for. having said that i understand what you just said. i can read this and go did he trash alex too hard? some people criticize manning by saying that he also mobilized the image of malcolm x. not similar from alex haley some would argue. what about the argument of alex haley's book no longer be relevant and this being relevant now? >> in light of what everybody said and after reading the book myself, surely you can't read alex haley's the same way. conclusion. you can see it through the same lenses because manning makes clear his political, ideological framework determines what he included or excluded, what he kept in, so the thing is -- it has been biblical -- there's a lot of stuff. you think manning's

i say all of that that i am one who totally embraces alex haley's interpretation of malcolm x's life. i say that as one who has not read mr. manning's book on malcolm x, but i fully intend to. but i just ask you scholars, you teachers, what is the message that this current work -- what is the message that this current work will bring to our young black males that alex haley's words has not brought to us? >> very good question. sir in the blue shirt. >> hi. my name is alex, malcolm x meant a lot to me since i read it in high school. i read it right when the movie came out and it was really a big deal in my school. never heard of him. and if he can hear him i want some respect to go to him. it's amazing. but i had a three-part kind of comment, i guess, one, it seems to me that with seeing the failures of a great leader, it's almost like us growing up and seeing our parents differently. like we see our parents as heroes, then we see their failings and all of a sudden we just want to rage against the world because they are not what we thought they would be and in the end we get together a

and so let's begin with alex haley. alex haley was, his book was a seminal work to move to millions of young americans, not just african-americans, move human beings understand to struggle on this planet about oppressed people and a sense of being african-american and where you stood in why you said the other to which you had to fight for an offense. so having said that, i understand what you just said. i can read this and going to do trash alec struve heard? some people have criticized manninen this book by saying that he also liberalized the image of malcolm x. not similarly, so what about the argument about the book know that they're being relevant and this being relevant now? >> well, you know, i think in light of what everybody said and after reading the book myself, surely you can't read hailey the same way. you can't come to the same conclusion. you can't see it the same lenses because coming in outcome and manning makes clear that his political ideological framework determined what he included, would be excluded

so, i have no problem maintaining what i think is a truth, which is alex haley's malcolm x. that is a truth particularly because it has all the pieces we are talking about, that it is shaped by the time, it is shaped by haley and shapes by how malcolm wants to think of himself. all of that is relevant to understanding who the man is. the spike lee movie is a good movie. and although it is not a documentary it never purported to be a documentary. and so therefore, it does what every movie fictionalized account of a great person does is that it takes liberties. and so some of those liberties are greater than others. so i think that those stories are not going away anytime soon. i'm not certain that this is going to be made into a movie. i mean, i don't know. maybe it will be but i do think that we shouldn't overestimate you know how quickly the revision will happen. it is going to take time for people to absorb some of what is in here and i think manning marable would want that. the this would begin a -- other people will write in and other people will take portions of this an

i'm calling about inmate haley french.. 1/10/1971. >> unfortunately, i missed my daughter's birthday. but better late than never, i figure. what i plan on doing is going home and getting a great big box, wrapping it up, telling her -- having my dad tell her i -- she got a late birthday present, and when she opens it up -- here i am. >> do you need to see me again? >> hey, did you have time to get that stuff filled out? checkout list? >> yes. >> i did a warrant check, pending charges. is there any other counties you may have a traffic violation or anything? >> i've never been arrested before in my life. >> traffic violation? >> nothing. >> speeding? >> nothing that hasn't been paid. >> for whatever reason, if i'm not here, your i.d. is in your envelope with your gratuity. okay. >> excellent. can i ask how much it is? >> it is for a total of $260.29. >> okay. >> sound right? >> yes. thank you. >> see you tomorrow. >> all right. >> receiving the green light for his release from prison, haley makes what he hopes is his last pr

haley and i had conversations about that over the weekend. about our private -- prior to this meeting, working with transit personnel and leveraging the union share at the division for a much those routes are deployed, ensuring they have our support and open doors of conversation so they know where we stand and if there is any thing they need while they go through this experience, there is an assistance program have in construction with the transport workers union. >> -- in conjunction with the transport workers union. >> what are we doing -- are we beefing up security in this area? >> yes. we are working in tandem with the san francisco police department. if you want more specifics, i can have our officers that to the might as he is working with the commander -- i can have our officer stepped up to the microphone as he is working with their commander. at this juncture, if you could step up to the microphone, please. >> good afternoon, mr. chairman, board members. we have police department units out there working overtime. we have the mrts an

neither does south carolina governor nikki haley. jim? >> find me those people that think this is invading their rights and i will go take them to the d.m.v. myself and help them get that picture i.d. >> stephen: okay. everybody just pile into nikki haley's car, but you are going to want to call shotgun because according to the state election commission, she'll have to pick up 178,000 voters in south carolina who don't have photo i.d.s. i'm sure she'll be able to pick them all up in her p.t. cruiser, though a lot of those voters are black, so she might get pulled over. but even then it is possible the wrong people could get elected. that's why we need something a little more selective than a photo i.d. i tell you what, these i.d. laws prove republican legislators are great judges of who should vote, so let's just cut out the middle man and let only republican legislators be voters. that way we will finally be certain that only the right people get elected. we'll be right back. [cheering and applause] [cheerin] >> stephen: thank you very m

for people not political insiders the idea that haley barbour would run for president seemed a littletched. what he made national news for over the last year is claiming the civil rights era in mississippi was no big deal and kind of fun and conservative citizens councils kept everything peaceful in mississippi. if you are not a political insider, the idea of haley barbour being elected president is like the idea of boss hogg elected home coming king. it just doesn't seem doable. insiders really thought that barbour might be the guy for the republican party this year. former chair of the party, well liked and establishment and big money guys inside the party and people in the know thought this guy was the establishment choice. when he said he decided not run in april of this year, who was the establishment going to support instead of him? apparently that support went to mitch daniels. sure, he was to george w. bush's budget office that michael brown was to fema and very, very small and confusing politics but what it seemed like to the republican insiders, mitch daniels was the inherit

a southerner were, were, a preconditioned coofort wwthú that and serving effectively as president, haleyr might be running for president. >> but you know, i think haley barbour probably is more comfortable with black people than many northerners are. >> really? >> yes i do. >> the accusations of racism against him notwithstanding. >> oh yes. >> yeah. >> because i think that some of those are strong, are proper accusations. >> yeah. >> that he does say racist things or ignorant things anyway. >> yeah. >> and luckily as you said, it's not the same thing. you know, it's possible to be ignorant and not be a racist, and he has, you know, on occasion, he's been both. >> yeah. okay. can we talk about how you got to be this person; how you got to be at this place in your life after all these years? you started out the son of the president of a black college. >> right. >> you grew up in probably better circumstances than many of your contemporaries. >> indeed. -eah. >> .at that time. can you talk about thaa and how you got from there to morehouse and how you decided to get into the civil rights m

. >> sean: you were attacked by haley barbour today. he said our people have to understand we can't let the perfect be the enemy of good. he said in politics purity is a dog loser. we can't go out with the idea we are going to be pure or we are going to do nothing. talking pretty much about you. the headline is haley barbour criticize demint for not supporting boehner. your reaction? i'm getting a lot of criticism and i expect it. this is not about purity, nowhere close. if i had my way we would be balancing our budget in the next five years and i think we need to. i'm willing to work with the president, democrats, moderate republicans. if we don't put our country on a path towards a balanced budget we are putting it on a path towards abruptly. -- bankruptcy. that's the only two choices we are facing. i'm not willing to support any plan that doesn't realize we need to move towards that balanced budget. >> sean: where is the leadership in the white house? it doesn't exist. thank you. >> thank you sean. >> sean: the president's debt strat

in south carolina, republican governor nikki haley and republican lawmakers are fighting over where higher than expected revenue should go, to restore spending cuts or cut taxes. a problem many governors and lawmakers would probably love to have right now. john yang, nbc news, chicago. >>> even as governments wrestle with budget problems, there was euphoria on wall street this week in the wake of another bailout for greece. the dow was up more than 168 points on the day, capping its biggest weekly gain in more than two years. a month's worth of losses have been regained in just five trading days on all three major indexes. the dow gaining 5.4% on the week. the nasdaq up 6.2% and the s&p 500 up 5.6%. that is one huge week. >>> when we come back, another royal wedding. this one a bit more low key than the last one. >>> maria shriver formally filed for divorce from her husband of 25 years today. they cited irreconcilable differences. they separated in may, and a week after they split, he acknowledged fathering a child with a member of their household staff. >>> as america gets ready to celebr

i am john haley, the director of transit operations bitter i am joined by reginald mason -- i am joined by reginald mason, director of the safety, security, and training. and enforcement. and julie is our service planner and is also our expert on the transit effectiveness program. we have a member of our sustainable streets division. i thought it was important, as we go forward and talk about the t-line, while i will submit to you that it is an integral part of the rail system, the unique features that perhaps make the t-line a model for where we want to be with the rest of the system, one of those is the use of a signal priorities to help move the line along. we have our in-house expert on that. with that, if i may, we have put together a brief powerpoint, and feel free to stop me at any time. as i said, i want to touch on both the fact that the t-line is an integral part of our existing system, as well as it has its unique features and is the newest line. it was, we believe, well conceived in terms of giving a rail line the flexibility to do some of the things to help it stay on servi

>> since they've taken two great answers i will say how about haley barbour to have a southerner if wedon't know the reason why he's not running. i interviewed him last week. he's very sharp on all of the issues. >> we're in the middle of the doldrums and tim pawlenty is wondering -- chris: that's a regret for you. thanks to a great round taken. -- round table. that's the show. thank you for watching. see you back here next week.

and help us now in most cases alex haley the torpedo effect democrat led senate scales republican debt ceiling plan surely all day was not any of the house's u.s. default deadline knew. that trend's forces gathering and standing in front of the no museum causing outrage from activists.

and governor haley joins us from columbia, south carolina.ning. >> steve: you and governor perry are now pen pals with america, writing in the newspapers? >> you know, what you're saying is there is great governors across the country that are having to balance their budgets, they're having to cut spending and having to cap spending and what they're saying is, look, if we're doing this in the states, we want you to do this in d.c what governor perry and i are trying to do is say the ohm way we're going to get washington in line is if we start to balance our budget. they're going to need the state support to do that through the constitutional amendment. we want them to know we've got governors lining up to support them in that process. >> steve: the idea that later this week the republicans in the house are going forward with cut, cap and balance, you love that because you think america should have a balanced budget amendment to the constitution? >> listen, we will never get our debt in line until we have a balanced budget amendment. i will tel

of america or any other bills that we should know about that are being drafted right now well nikki haley in south carolina just signed a very similar bill in south carolina it's similar to the arizona bill it basically requires law enforcement officers from the state of south carolina to. stop someone and request information about immigration status if they reasonably believe that someone is undocumented now of course how a person can reasonably come to the conclusion that someone is undocumented is anyone's guess and our worry is that it really kind of is an invitation to racial profiling i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight eleanor the one that really baffles my mind is that you are not supposed to help anybody if you think that they might have documents and that's that's just and humane and that thank you so much thank you. i still come tonight tonight he compared them to children and tonight we're giving them our tools and award to their lack of leadership and stick around for happy hour and then we see suspend the can trigger. three calls obama a derogatory name for

nikki haley's number that's her government said south carolina is it worth not seen a one hundred seventy eight dollars wind off the. four or five people from illegally voting south carolina is a pre-clearance state and that requires the justice department which presently is run by mr obama to make sure that any changes that are going to go into effect will actually not restrict the ability of people to vote now there are a lot of these claims that are tossed up but it turns out and the supreme court has championed this notion that a voter identification is a form of voter integrity but ensures that voters understand that they are actually getting to choose who is going to make decisions for them and you know supreme court chief justice former seem to the chief justice rehnquist made his republican chops this climate justice party and. this is when he was sitting in his life in critical but what we will see is what is the posture of the department of justice when it comes to analyzing these kinds of issues now i am very confident that the department of justice is going to clear these stat

today is the 7th annual haley's run for a reason. the run is named for haley tom who died in her sleep more than 11 years ago. it was classified as sudden unexplained death in childhood, which affects children over a year old and more rare than sudden in infant death syndrome. >> they do an amazing job and raise a lot of money for a good cause. >>> what is happening on the roads right now? >> we are looking at the bay area bridges and today it is looking good. this is a good chance for me to remind you make sure that you know there are more not fewer chp officers on the road. they are looking for all kinds of things, emphasis on dui but seat belt violations and speeding so if you drive carefully you should for the be in any problem and you can can see the roads are light. >> temperatures 90s, low 100s by the coast we could see a big drop. you can see the fog it is shallow going north to south but starting to fill in, it is like what fog, concord, fairfield, livermore, san jose already warm, so they will be hot. there is a southeast w

. >>> joining us now from jackson t state capital, is haley barbour. getting back right now. we talk about it, this gulf coast city that's been battered by katrina, the recession and the oil spill. i want to show you a graphic of the money investors are pouring in since katrina. 117 million into residential construction, 716 million into commercial construction. what do you think accounts for the surge of this rebuilding in this area? >> i thought jerry said it well, the money is loosening up a bit. biloxi had other issues. right after katrina, which utterly obliterated the beach, first, they had to rebuild u.s. 90, beach boulevard, we called it. in doing so, all of the water and sewer which had been located in the right of way just north of the highway, well, the highway got moved as far north as possible for obvious reasons, so then they had to move all the water to sewer. they had complications, federal issues about what the federal government would allow them to do. so they were a little slower than other communities right after katrina. then you m

>> governor nikki haley. she has indicated she is going endorse somebody and given south carolina importance in the primary process, nobody that has gone on has lost south carolina. folks have been courting her since she ran back in 2010. >> gregg: you mentioned, maybe we can put the stimulus numbers up, you mentioned earlier, governors john huntsman, tim pawlenty, why are they so low in the polls? >> at this point it's still a name recognition game. i think when you look at tim flawz may be other questions. for john huntsman, not enough people know who he is. when you look at romney leading, it's largely because he has the biggest name recognition along with sarah palin. that why those folks are at the top. when we get a few months and the campaign gets going, then you'll see movement. >> gregg: interesting stuff. good to see you, happy 4th. >> heather: nato launching a new round of intense airstrikes. the air assault targeting khadafy's forces in the western part of the country. libyan leader now threatenin

haley barbour from mississippi, terrific politician. rick perry did better.erry has a good economy in texas. some people say she creates low-income jobs but they're doing better than the rest of the country and he will take momentum away from bachmann and romney. he could be a bridge between the tea party republicans and establishment republicans. he would be a big player if he gets in. >> bret: his record, though, in texas is getting scrutinized. the state budget has grown faster than inflation and population growth and the spending has grown faster than his predecessor george w. bush. rick, if he gets in, if he is as expected gets in, what does it do to the iowa race? conventional wisdom is congresswoman michele bachmann is positioned well right now. >> it makes things interesting. ames is critical for a lot of candidates and it would become critical for perry even if he is not a candidate. he needs springboard to come in saying look, without lifting a finger this is what i did. that is the boost that goes, to his back as he moves ahead. it throws iowa in c

. >> for bill haley whose west hollywood store was raided in 2007, trying to operate a legitimate business is difficult, but worth the risk. are you worried each day about the dea coming in to shut you down? >> every day that we open those doors we practice civil disobedience. every day. does it worry me? sure. >> they put me on the ground there with a gun to my head. >> the feds raid his dispensary >> the feds raid his dispensary and his home. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often haed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. so delicious. i think you'll find it's the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables. find more ways to get to the table at letsfixdinner.com. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of

in south carolina, republican governor nikki haley and republican lawmakers are fighting over where higherhan expected revenue should go to restore spending cuts or to cut taxes. a problem many governors and lawmakers would probably love to have right now. john yang, nbc news, chicago. >>> 8:17. 74 degrees outside. >> it feels great. >> i think this may be the one day we agree. >> we're all on the same page with this one. >> low humidity is the key because it's actually been rather warm. but the humidity has been so low. so it's been feeling great. >> now, yes. >> well, yeah. >> can't last forever. >> that's right, the humidity is inching back up and we'll notice it a little bit more today. but it's going to be dry. so outdoor plans should be great. beach, pool, make, you name it, going for that hike, no problem. just stay hydrated. want to let you know the air quality is not so great. we have a code orange. that means it's unhealthy for sensitive groups. our weather is pretty comfortable. humidity has been low and temperatures down in the 50s for lows in our suburbs. this morning we got i

party bought a car plant in china and moved to america and he put the first one in mississippi with haley, the former chairman of the republican party. if he would do more of this in waup washington, we'd get further. i'm just trying to solve practical problems. one last thing on the substance here. there are -- we have to create about 15 million jobs in the next few years to have real normal growth. and we've got probably 13 million just to get back where we were on the day that the economy collapsed. there are 3 million job openings today in america and they are only being filled half as fast as they have been filled in every previous recovery period. why is that? we had a whole session on that yesterday. and one of the best things that will come out of this is what michael thurman, the former labor commission of georgia, said about what he did in giving training money directly to employers saying don't hire them until we see how they do. but here's the training money. you train them to suit yourself. don't say they don't have the skills. train them to suit yourself. they won't be treat

in south carolina, republican governor nikki haley and republican lawmakers are fighting over where higher than expected revenue should go to restore spending cuts or to cut taxes. a problem many governors and lawmakers would probably love to have right now. john yang, nbc news, chicago. >>> in world news, moammar gadhafi lashing out against nato threatening to attack europe unless air strikes against his country stop. gadhafi says he will carry out attacks against european homes, offices and families in a message played to a huge pro government rally in tripoli. the long time leader is currently in hiding as the criminal court is hoping to charge him for his brutal attacks against his own people ptd. >>> the death of osama bin laden has been cell celebrated pie many, but the university at pew jab university is sponsoring a literary contest to glorify the leader. the contest organizers run known, but students and teachers believe a conservative islamic student group is behind it. in the past the very same group has been accused of trying to enforce it religious views on the rest of the cam

duboise, and alec haley, who did "roots "which was the uncle tom's cabin of modern times. he really appreciated "uncle tom's cabin "in a way many other african-americans of the 1960s and '70s did not, and he uses a lot of the same devices in "roots" which it is a kind of sea change in racial attitude. >> up with of the things that really -- one of the things that really struck me as i mentioned in my introduction about your work, about this book was how you demonstrate in a number of ways stowe's, um, what you term stowe's subversive techniques and how, also, then that permeates through the popular culture in the after life of uncle tom in a subversive way. can you talk about that for the audience a little bit? the. >> right. well, when we read the novel today, perhaps we don't feel its subversiveness as if we lived back in the 1850s. but when it was first published, it created incredible outrage in the south. there's a political cartoon that i reproduce in my book, a picture of hell. and what that hell is, is the america that will be created by "uncle tom's cabin." from t

as we learn with haley barbour you never know what's actually going to happen. it does seem now like some time not just after ames, but also after this day of prayer that he's having in houston next month you'll see governor perry move to get into the race. they're in no rush. they're taking their time to a make sure that the money is there for them to launch a serious campaign. secondly, the grassroots support is there. that's why you see them in these recent weeks having the governor call activists in iowa and new hampshire and have donors come down to austin and meet with him to get to know each or. that's their way of feeling out if lst the grassroots and financial support there for a campaign. >> it's not clear sailing, i guess not for anyone mike huckabee taking a shot at rick perry saying texas governor reck perry is still flirting with a run for all his new fund commitment to hyper conservatism, he'll get to discuss why he supported proabortion, prosame sex marriage rudy giuliani last time. >> ouch. >> welcome to the nfl. that just shows a peak from huck

the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal.ng the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be running these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at 9 state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc.ç announcer ] this...is the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. it's the at&t network... diabetes te

step to demonstrate that he's serious about a candidacy, but i'll tell you, we saw that before with haleyubstantive steps and hiring key personnel, like rob collins, which would have been a campaig really ended up not happening at the end of the day. so we think he's making the right moves to run, but until a candidate says yes, that answer is still no. >> absolutely. wonderfully put. thank you so much. >> thank you, martin. >>> to london, in one year the 2012 games will begin. while there's still much to do, more than 3.5 million tickets have already been sold thus far. nbc's peter alexander is live in london with a look at how the city is preparing. peter, i understand there was a huge event today. was it at trafalgar square? >> it was, but also here at the aquatic center, 440 million to build it. when you enter, it feels like you're walking into i guess you could say the mouth of a gray or blue whale. it's remarkable. a year from now, 80,000 people will come in here to the olympic stadium, and for the first time we saw the medals that the athletes will receive. the ioc's chair also inv

>> well, opening up the field, and people like mitt daniels and haley barbour did not run and newt gingrich's campaign implosion allowed a lot of of rick pey's former staffers who were working with gingrich to join up with perry. >> and sarah palin says that coming soon at the end of the summer, she will make a decision. >> well, the odds on favorite is that she is probably not going to run. to be able to run for president, you have to be able to raise that campaign dough, andhe actie endorsements, and she has not done that. she dips her toes into the presidential waters, but quickly removes them. >> and rudy giuliani? >> well, he wants to make a bid for a presidential election, but the problem is that there is not a clamor of the base from sarah palin or rick perry and people want those folks in, but not that much about rudy giuliani. >> what about the gop nominees and those declared and those still debating are all silent on the debt ceiling talks going on? >> well, it is a fascinating development, and the key actors in the players are folks in washington, d.c., so the eric cantors and the

the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal.ç and chris christie.ing the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be skinny these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at the state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >> ( rooster crows ) >> by 2020, 50 billion network devices will roam the earth. that's seven devices per person. this will change how we work in ways we've never before imagined. what do you need to secure your people, their devices, and your business? a network that can evolve and grow to protect your human network. i know you're worried about making your savings last and having enough income when you retire. that's why i'm here -- to help come up with a plan and get you on the right path. i have more than a thousand fidelity e

and i say, well, and i thought about, you know, alex haley and the whole "roots" thing, and we end up saying that was faction -- [laughter] because he had to create a whole lot of things that's impossible for him to know the kind of discussions that they have gone on with distant ancestors and that sort of thing. well, i don't want to go that far in terms of putting manning's book into that kite of category, but it warrants discussion that we can talk about the the infidelity and the homosexuality which, of course, triggered discussion around the book. so i stand right in the middle, i'm prepared to take it from both sides. >> great. and picking up on that. i want to direct this question to sonia, but everyone on the panel's welcome to debate this. manning argued memorably that a black scholar has a specific mandate to produce scholar that is descriptive, prescriptive and corrective. did manning meet the responsibility in this particular book, did he meet that standard in this book by writing a study of malcolm that is descriptive, prescriptive and corrective? >> i'm not too sure that