number two, nikki haley. number 3, chris christie. number 4 ron desantis. >> ainsley: all right. that's interesting. but i liked vivek's response was very -- he was quick on his feet because he said really? you helped observe win when you gave him that hug in new jersey when he came up to help with sandy. so, they both. >> steve: i was in new jersey he didn't hug him but he had a big handshake. >> ainsley: he invited him and a lot of people were upset about that, brian. >> brian: yeah. that was a follow-up i did not here. hear. it was so loud. i thought he re-thought the ai candidate. i don't think he pre-thought said i have a strange last name and skinny guy. that just -- that is classic chris christie acting in real time. that's why i was shocked. unless he had something happen i didn't know for him not to come to the spin room because he does so well and he has all those cameras. i was really surprised. i wonder if it means something bigger than that but, ainsley, you want to set up something else, that is another area in which nik

haley: it is interesting. republicans have lost the last seven out of eight popular votes for president. that's nothing to be proud of. we should want to win the majority for americans. we have the solutions. we know how to lift everyone. we have to communicate it the right way. this is not rocket science. this is common sense. it's time that the government's thoughts -- starts working for the people. in order to do this, we have to face certain truths. it is time for a new generational leader. it is time that we lead the negativity -- leave the negativity and drama behind and focus on real solutions. we need new answers on this. we don't have time to play anymore. china, russia and iran are winning. the american people are losing. what i will tell you, in order to do that, it will take courage, from everybody here. courage from me to run. courage for everyone of you to know don't complain about what happens in a general election if you don't play in this caucus. it matters. gov. reynolds: we want to set a rec

haley: it is interesting. republicans have lost the last seven out of eight popular votes for president. that's nothing to be proud of. we should want to win the majority for americans. we have the solutions. we know how to lift everyone. we have to communicate it the right way. this is not rocket science. this is common sense. it's time that the government's thoughts -- starts working for the people. in order to do this, we have to face certain truths. it is time for a new generational leader. it is time that we lead the negativity -- leave the negativity and drama behind and focus on real solutions. we need new answers on this. we don't have time to play anymore. china, russia and iran are winning. the american people are losing. what i will tell you, in order to do that, it will take courage, from everybody here. courage from me to run. courage for everyone of you to know don't complain about what happens in a general election if you don't play in this caucus. it matters. gov. reynolds: we want to set a rec

also, nikki haley.of the great things about the fact that while donald trump would've been great to have been there, he chose not to attend. nonetheless, without him in the hall, we were able to hear the policy positions of different candidates. and here is one of the most stark differences. you have got nikki haley who has represented the united states and the united nations as ambassador. you have got vivek ramaswamy who for the most part wants to change everything we are doing regarding taiwan, israel, and also ukraine. and here is when they got into it. >> a win for russia is a win from china. we have to know that. ukraine is the first line of defense for us. a problem that vivek doesn't understand is he wants to hang ukraine to russia. he wants to let china eat taiwan pretty want to go and stop funding israel. you don't do that to friends. but you do instead is you have a box of your friends. ukraine is the front line of defense. putin has said, once russia takes ukraine, poland and the baltics are

nikki haley said i don't play for second. we have bret baier coming up.will have the preview at 8:00, debate start at 9. >> brian: will you make bret sit 12 feet from you? >> brian: if he will not submit to being patted down, i will have no choice. his hair does get frizzy unlike natalie grant. president biden won wisconsin by 20,000 0, trump won by 22,000. ron desantis said everybody else is running for number two. if you are scripted, you will have trouble. and vivek ramaswamy, his foreign policy got him in hot water, he opened up to someone like nikki haley, who thrives in the area. going to be fun. >> ainsley: were you surprised when we saw the lineup where they are going to be according to national polls? number one, ron desantis, right behind trump, trump is not participating. number two vivek ramaswamy, mike pence, nikki haley, chris christie, tim scott, hutchinson and burgum. were you shocked when you saw ramaswamy is number two in polling? >> brian: surprised, but what struck me, they will have a big unveiling on the next show is bill hemmer and

haley: well, look. to serve in donald trump's administration and pushed the foreign policy we did that took the kick me sign off our backs at the u.n. and had america respected again and i support a lot of the policies he supported but i think you have to look at the fact that three quarters of americans don't want to see a trump-biden replay. the majority of americans -- i mean, trump is the most disliked politician in america and the most disliked politician in america cannot win a general election. this was the kick off to the debate season. i think now people are paying attention. i think there's a difference on people who support trump and people who are going to vote for trump. i think people know we have new issues, big issues and need solutions. we cannot keep looking to the past. we have to leave the drama and negativity to the past. we need a new generational conservative leader that will focus on what it takes to get america back on track. i was a two-term governor that took a double-digit un

nikki haley was the winner of the night. i think if you are trying to pull for the sort of alternative to trump who can get mainstream republicans and win a general election, she did that. i think she really took vivek to the woodshed on foreign policy, and that is not easy to be the leader of the free world. pence surprised me, and he should not, because i worked for pence and he's the most experienced in terms of debate on a debate stage. against him, cain, against vice president harris, i actually think that vivek soares twenties sort of smugness and an agnostic approach brought out this right indignation in pence you don't always see. you can sometimes fall flat, so i would expect -- >> you saw that in mike pence? >> he got under his skin. i think we will see a bump effect from the desantis supporters, but mostly for taking haley. >> i thought there was so much theatrics on the stage. some of that was intentional, i thought that so many of the candidates, including all the ones that we were just talking about, needed to

ramaswamy, nikki haley.orida whenever one, 44%, desantis distant 18 but nikki haley has inched up to 10%. in my opinion the message is of this. trump might have to switch his narrative. it used to be going after desantis because he was the number 2. notice trump versus everybody else. he's positive on vivek ramaswamy, hasn't said much about nikki haley. stuart: these are headlines about nikki haley's momentum. is supreme opportunity, nikki haley starting to look like a real threat to trump et cetera et cetera. come in, bill strong, nikki haley donor. should your candidate attack trump now directly? >> i love seeing those headlines. what we are really focused on our policies that can make life better for americans. we are not attacking, we are going to speak the truth, you saw this in the fox debate last week, nikki is going to tell the truth about issues facing america and putting forward good policies. stuart: she stood out in the debate especially on the issue of abortion which many republicans believe the

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haley did that. she distinguished herself from the group and i think that a number of these other candidates or background noise. in for tim, scott that is particularly damaging because there are high hopes for him. people like him. his numbers among republicans are good. but the question is, does she fill the role. and he did not step up tonight to take control of the moment. >> i want to go, there is at this stage and a lot of campaigns such we think it's peaking too early. and i do wonder if the ramaswamy moment might happen at a slightly too early point. if you are a tim scott and you are already in third place in some of these places, you keep a relatively low profile and wait for your moment a little bit down the road. >> normally these races break late and that is the argument. >> first of all, ramaswamy is not going to be the nominee. one of the things that happens, and you saw some of it tonight. i said to john, used to say the only place people shoot backwards in cowboy movies. the reason p

i thought nikki haley did well.andidate, because everything was preprogrammed. everything was canned, every response. you know, if you had said what would a candidate running in the republican nomination for president say to this question, it's everything perfectly canned. ron desantis was flat. i don't think he hurt himself but didn't help himself either. he just doesn't have the game. he's just, like the rev said, you know, when you get on this level, it's like nothing you've ever been at before. nothing prepares you for it. none of us can imagine what it's like unless we actually have been out there. you know, ron desantis doesn't look ready to take on the heavyweights. >> not very nimble reacting. he could only plow forward with the lines. interesting to watch, though, the fire of the challengers was not on ron desantis at all. i mean, for now, he's in second place behind donald trump. they were all going at vivek ramaswamy. >> chris, let's start with you and your take-aways of what you saw last night. >> first,

he was the target of nikki haley.till is the leading candidate, who is on that stage tonight. and they basically ignored him. >> what did you think about how governor desantis performed on his own terms? obviously, you are totally, right nobody paid any attention to him onstage. nobody really bothered to attack him on anything because you did not see seem like a threat -- which is a little, crazy given his. falling but i fell, and i feel -- it feels slightly ad hominem, but i felt like just as a performer on the debate stage he was probably the worst of all eight candidates, including the couple of them whose names are hard to remember even as i -- >> yeah, doug bergum. we see, you doug bergum. i think, rachel maddow, what is a challenge -- any time you go into these debates, and i have worked for candidates who have been lowered down in the tears in these. debates nicolle has as well. you want to have a memorable moment. you want to have a moment that goes out on social media. you want a moment that your donors remem

hands off, no attacking of nicky haley -- nikki haley or vivek.e called him lock down ron for praising dr. fauci for the covid response and as for chris christie, horrible tonight, he was booed at a level never seen before. he should have walked off the stage. he also called asa hutchinson a joke. he praised vivek when vivek said trump was the best president of the 21st century. if i'm bottom lining it, vivek, scott and haley, are they contenders for vp? stuart: i guess they are. lauren: if trump hasn't hit them yet. stuart: that's what trump had to say. that's interesting. speaker mccarthy calling for another investigation into president biden. what's going on this time? lauren: maui and wild fires. mccash think wants to know how -- mccarthy wants to know how so many people died? 115, 1,000 still unaccounted for. what errors were made in response to the fires by hawaii and the federal government. he criticized biden's personal response, you know, for saying no comment. then he visited the island for five hours and talked about kitchen fire and de

here so respond to all of that is nikki haley. ambassador, thank you for being here, welcome to you. first off, what is your reaction to that twitter post, keep lying, referencing your name saying that desperation is growing. >> i'm not going to get involved in these childish name games. it's pretty pathetic. first of all, i was born with nikki on my birth certificate, i was raised as nikki, i married a haley and so that is what my name is. so he can say or misspell or do whatever he wants, but he can't step away from the fact that look, he's the one that said he was going to abandon israel. those were his words. now he's wanting to walk it back and the reality is you have to understand the importance of our allies and those relationships. we can never be so narcissitic to think we don't need friends. america needs israel, too, about you they face genocide threats from hamas, syria, hezbollah. israel is the front line of defense with islamic terrorism in iran and he doesn't get it. you can tell what kind of leader they will be bas

and i think nikki haley was the clear runner-up as well.med really reasonable and really willing to work with others. >> steve: it's really interesting because going into the debate so many people thought ron desantis he has to perform. let's see how he does. but here we are, you know, thursday morning quarterbacking, and we're all talking about vivek and nikki. all right. great panel. thank you very much. by the way, who flew in on a helicopter? because your ride is here. [laughter] >> steve: they are looking for you. it's a slow speed chase. all right. that wraps up the panel live from fox square. now let's go to the original pancake house in wink. brian? >> all right, yes. i have a special guest. thanks, steve. the hot topics of abortion and former president trump getting the most on last night's debate stage. look at that chart. meanwhile, foreign policy and government spending getting the least amount of time and discussion. here with her top take aways from last night's debate one of the most important setting this whole thing up rnc

nikki haley you mentioned. she was the only female candidate on the debate stage obviously and she leaned into being the only woman there. let's watch together. >> i will always say i am going to fight for girls all day long because strong girls become strong women. strong women become strong leaders. i think this is exactly why margaret thatcher said if you want something said ask a man. if you want something done, ask a woman. >> harris: steve, how did she do last night? >> i thought she did better than expected and came out strong and the best answer on an important issue for the general election, which is abortion. towards the end of the debate she lost her cool somewhat. especially in that foreign policy and started yelling at vivek ramaswamy and i think what that tells you is that there is a real degree of resentment from some of these more establishment politicians who have been around a bit like nikki haley and mike pence who lost their cools. i think they feel threatened by the idea that there is yet a

caller: i agree with what nikki haley said. just census is the primary competition for trump -- desantis is the primary competition for trump. the democrats and the department of justice, they say what they are doing to him is purely political. i think he will be in jail. i don't think he will be the nominee. i think desantis is the nominee. i don't think biden will be there. i think he will assume room temperature before the event runs for a second term. probably that clown in california will be the nominee for the democratic party. host: back to the mountaineer state, democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. if you allow me, i've got a couple of things i'd like to speak about. i am a coalminer at of mate one west virginia. in the history books, it's considered the town m that's historical for theatewan massacre and my wife is a professional schoolteacher. i. watched the debate last night i was somewhat disappointed that they did not recognize the working-class people. they seem to get down on unions and education. we are

i will respectfully speak hard truths. >> nikki haley delivered fire and brimstone. wrapped it on the head of the western ambassador, ambassador nikki haley, really going after the russians. >> i wear heels. if i see something wrong, we will kick them every single time. >> i have to put forth real solutions to our country's problems and restore the people's belief that america is worth fighting for. america is the greatest force for good in human history and we should never be ashamed to say that. >> the biggest reason socialism is gaining ground is capitalism's defenders are too afraid to speak up. we can't keep quiet. the truth matters and it is time to tell it. america is too nice. stop being nice to these thugs and tyrants that want to kill us. we are not going to throw cotton balls at them. we will throw a grenade. >> is this president science any sort of deal i will make you a promise. the next president will shred it on her first day in office. >> just saying sometimes it takes a woman. [applause] >> that was special, thank you for coming to. and for a real tr

that is what nikki haley was trying to get across.hat mike pence and haley were saying, popular with people in the audience. there's a segment of the republican party who saw some republican candidates who said this is the right thing to do and we will stand by it notwithstanding. paul: we will talk about more in the next block. the republican front-runner may have skipped wednesday night's debate but donald trump was a prime topic of conversation as candidates weighed in on the former president's legal woes and fitness for office ahead of his arrest in georgia. (fan #1) there ya go! that's what i'm talkin' about! (josh allen) is this your plan to watch the game today? (hero fan) uh, yea. i have to watch my neighbors' nfl sunday ticket. (josh allen) it's not your best plan. but you know what is? myplan from verizon. switch now and they'll give you nfl sunday ticket from youtubetv, on them. (hero fan) this plan is amazing! (josh allen) another amazing plan, backing away from here very slowly. (fan #1) that was josh allen. (fan #2) mmhm

nikki haley brings up an important concern.rump has it in the bag as the candidate but he will lose the general. why are we -- why would the republic party run into that fire? the answer is because that is what they were saying in 2016 that he did not have a chance. the polls are a little dishonest right now. for whatever reason. >> he has been rejected so many times since then. >> by who? >> the american people. >> we will see. you are going to change her name. >> this is not funny. >> if it comes to it, i will. last night i would have said in this country, they don't determine elections, we the people do. we determine them at the ballot box and that is it. the fact that trump is getting railroaded, it is not about trump. tonight, when he gets his mug shot, i didn't like the way it looked with rudy and i thought it was going to be a big, viral moment. you said something that bothered me the other day. it has been on my mind. trump had been indicted and you made it seem like that was a good thing. that is actually a disgraceful

we had debates and certain candidates polls surged, nikki haley, mike pence, desantis rose up, donaldrump went down a bit, but enjoying huge lead. how do you see this duck tailing with impact of "wall street journal" editorial board predicted, what do you think is going to happen? >> this is the best campaigning tool, the indictments because more timing looks suspicious, more it fires up voters. democrats know what they are doing, they are both wounding him, but guaranteeing his nomination at the same time. they don't mind firing up his base and republican voters and that is what they are trying to do, goating them into voting for trump and hoping one of the things coalesces and finalizes before election day so he can be convicted and what his legal team is asking for is more time. they asked to go into be 2026 to have more time to prepare for the trial set to begin on march 4, they are not going to get that and they know and it does feel like all of these different elements, judges or justice department, special counsel are working together on a compresed calendar and that can't be a

[applause] >> gambassador haley thank you very much.ntlemen she's author of something if you want something done. copies are in the store they are autographed. piquant up on your way out. thank you for coming god bless you all for god bless america. we will see you next time, bye-bye. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ this fall watch c-span's new series books that shaped america between us as we embark on a captivating journey in partnership with the library of congress which first create a book that saved america list to explore key works of literature from american history that books featured have provoke thought, one awards, led to significant societal changes and are still talked about today. hear from featured renown experts will shed light on the profound impact of these iconic works of virtual journeys to significant locations across the country intricately tied to the celebrate authors and their unforgettable book among our featured books common sense by thomas paine, huckleberry finn by mark twain. their eyes were watching god. and free to choo

our anel haley, are you bought... our panel are _ haley, are you bought... haley, are you bought... oi" panel are still with us. katy kay, and matt tyrrell. i may ask you for your reaction to that exchange, calling climate change a hoax. what do you make of it? ~ change a hoax. what do you make of it? ,, ., .,, ., , change a hoax. what do you make ofit? ,, ., ., , , of it? vivek ramaswamy is clearly the _ of it? vivek ramaswamy is clearly the most _ of it? vivek ramaswamy is| clearly the most outspoken of it? vivek ramaswamy is . clearly the most outspoken on theissue clearly the most outspoken on the issue of climate change, and saying what america needs to do is burn more coal, produce more nuclear, drill more, very much not an environmental policy, green policy that he was putting out there. again, it's interesting looking at those focus groups of how that we want down, it doesn't go down particularly well. those instant reaction focus groups didn't like what they heard there. and when you look at young voters in america in particular, actually action on

i think nikki haley is the one that took the most advantage of that. she had a compelling statement about abortion. she gave a very strong condemnation of his position involving ukraine. she was the first of all candidates and most direct about saying while she supported trump when she would -- trump when he was president, she was not afraid to challenge his record on entitlement spending, so i thought she just came across as the strongest, most balanced candidate in the debate, and i think that is what the voters thought as well. host: what camp does she fall in? guest: she has a little bit of both. she served in the trump administration, and she understands the concerns of the working class republicans that want the government to respond to their needs and not feel left out. at the same time, she has a broader view of the world at large. she is also --she can speak to people who feel a little bit shunned by the republican party, under president trump, people who are minorities. she has an appeal, which is what republicans need. what has been successf

was it, you take, a good moment for nikki haley?well, wonder when you look at the republican electric, more and more folks are saying now, trace, that they do not support endless funding for this ukraine russian war. we hear donald trump say and i don't know how this will work exactly that he would end the war within 24 hours if he was elected. it is a lot more complex than that. but i think the overall theme is that if you are a republican candidate at this point that if you support that ukraine/russian war and the tens of billions of dollars that have been given to ukraine, that is becoming increasingly popular with the republican voters. so while she has a very strong stance on that and obviously her work within the u.n. and foreign policy overall makes her very legitimate on this issue, of vivek ramaswamy in terms of saying that he probably would not support fighting this war at this point as far as republican voters, trace, that may be the position that resonates most at this point at least as far as this topic is concerned whi

present at that trump is asked south carolina governor nikki haley south carolina governor nikki haley to be his ambassador to the united nations and she'ss accepted. she's considered a rising star in the republican party. should be the first woman appointed to trump's cabinet. >> for anyone that says you can't get anything done they need to know if there's a new sheriff in town. spam fares and changing the way we do business and for those that don't have our backs were taking names. if for any reason north attacked the united states or our allies the u.s. rowers fond you just know you're going to move her. >> a miracle -- that's what the american people want us to do and it's the right thing to do. no vote in the united nations will make any difference. what we witnessed here today in the security council won't be forgotten. >> i like the message that nikki sent to the united nations. this was the finest hour for nikki haley standing up to united states and standing up for israel. >> standing her ground u.n. ambassador nikki haley making it clear -- >> i will not shut up rather i will

i think nikki haley had the best debate in terms of the expectations game.ow debates are judged. she had been having trouble differentiating herself. she was strong on foreign policy and she went hard on vivek on experience. >> and she has it. >> she has it, u.n. base, former south carolina governor, and someone not tiptoeing around vladimir putin as donald trump did. so a strong moment for nikki haley. >> so he shared center stage with governor desantis but we heard more from him, he was i guess the exclamation point at center stage. how do you think he did? >> i thought he was a character of a person truly. he jumped in, he cut off people while they were talking. he was factually incorrect on several things. he really did model himself after trump. he is going for v.p., it was very clear. and the cheers that he got was mostly because he said that he was the greatest president of our time. and so i think pointing out some of the issue that he is had or some of the falsities is important.that he is had or some of the falsities is important. he just was a cha

i think back to one of the moments when nikki haley and vivek. nikki haley went hard on ukraine. have to appreciate that vivek is probably closer to where republican voters are on the issue of ukraine. while she may have verbally won that debate, he may actually be better aligned with voters. here's a situation where asa hutchinson, again, very clear, what i would like from my traditional republican party to talk about, but he may be completely out of step with where voters are. i'll be interested with the contrast between what polls show after this, with how the donors in the room felt in the moment, how they cheered. >> good point on the donors in the room cheering versus what the republican voters in the iowa caucusing are going to think. communication strategist and former aide to house speakers ryan and boehner, thank you so much for coming on, brendan buck. thank you to you for getting up "way too early" on this thursday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> ukraine is the first line of defense for us, and the problem that vivek doesn't understand is, he wants to han

was it good for nikki haley? >> i wonder when you look at th republican electorate more more folks are saying now, trace, that they do not support endles funding for this ukraine russia more. we hear donald trump say -- and i don't know how this will work exactly -- that even the war within 24 hours if he was elected. it's a lot more complex than thate wa , i think the overall theme is that if you are republican i candidate at this point that if you supporf reput the ukraine r more and the terms of things ar dollars that are being given to ukraine, that is becoming increasingly unpopular with republicanin voters.nd so while she has a very strong stance on that, and obviously her work within the un and foreign policy overall makes he very legitimate on this issue, vivek ramaswamy enters of sayin that he probably would not suppor ot t funding this war at point, as far as revoking vo voters, trace, thar t may be th position that resonates the mos at this point, at least as far as this topic is concerned, which is go

point, that haley profiles as someone who would be a good general election candidate.ou noted, haley is 40 plus points behind donald trump. they all are. so let's talk about that right now. i mean, we saw poll numbers move a little bit after that first debate. trump, in some states, even lost a couple of points, but he's still so far ahead. what is the trump team's thinking right now? is that going to change the strategy of the next couple week, including the next debates? >> the trump team has been aggressive from day zero. long before some of these candidates were any numerical threat, before they were showing up on polls, you saw the trump team hitting them. all of these candidates, jonathan, they're running to be the person standing, for whatever reason, if donald trump is hit by lightning. something we've talked about for months. still true. something dramatic would have to change for donald trump to not be the nominee. but what has been true about every single year you and i have been covering is something dramatic happening. that's what you're counting on if you

nikki haley, now half the country is thinking about her and ramaswamy as well. >> ainsley: nikki haleys going to be with us today at 7:30 and vivek ramaswamy will be with us at 8:30. >> brian: i love this spot jabs. governor desantis thought he would be attacked more. he was fourth in how much he talked. i thought i was going to be number one because everyone said they were going to attack me. i ended unjust watching this going back and forth. so biden was jabsd the most. 1 times. i wonder if he is sore today. trump 6 times. ramaswamy 6. haley 2. pence 2. and desantis 1. christie was only jabsd once. you don't want to jab governor christie because you will get ripped back. everybody, even if you were more turned off than turned on about ramaswamy, everybody is talked about vivek. he just seems so happy to be there. >> ainsley: energy particular, excited. >> he talked to everyone. >> ainsley: he was excited he did well. he said after the debate that was so much fun. i'm ready for the next one and do it again. a roller coaster. >> steve: he came in hot. maybe too hot. >> brian: i asked i

nikki haley appealed to moderates.ight, she had a standout performance and needed to have it. if she didn't she would be nowhere. i think we will see a bump in nikki haley. the big loser last night, hate to say this, i hate to say this because it is like, we love you, tim scott but where were you. what people said when they did hear from him last night, seemed he was recycling old material, they want to tear fresh ideas from him and get to know him better. hopefully he can show up and let us know him better next time. he did not have a standout performance last night. >> mark tepper. >> haley, vivek ramaswami, and desantis, added trump as well. if you look at the betting odds, donald trump and nikki haley gained the most at the expense of chris christie and tim scott. when you look at losers i would go with mike pence, chris christie and scott. and the reason i think trump is one of the big winners is i don't believe any of the candidates on stage yesterday have a meaningful break out. i think we need to see more of th

haley is contending with the trump of it all, as all of them are.ay he's dominating even through legal troubles and the way she's talking about the guy she's going up against the guy she's going up in the general. watch. >> donald trump is a friend of mine, but the fact is, i don't know if it's four or five or six or how many indictments it is now. he's going to spend a lot of time in a courtroom and not on a campaign trail. my concern is we cannot have kamala harris as president. we can't chance this. >> reporter: this is an argument that haley makes often, lindsey, the idea that they are technically going up against president biden who is trying to defend for a second term in office. this is haley implicitly saying that she doesn't think joe biden will make it through his second term. i've actually asked her, is this exactly what you're trying to say. she has explicitly said she does not believe the president would survive a second term. of course, trying to make age not just the issue that's a central focus, but trying to make it one that applies

or a haley desantis.aley desantis. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: the shopping will continue, and for many, math, more than policy, will shape the final choice. the question is, can she win? right, so that's -- that's my main question, she personally would be my favorite candidate right now. but desantis, you know, at this point, looks more viable. >> pass the popcorn. the second debate is in a month. >> president biden is expected to roll out the first ten drugs he wants to negotiate pricing on when it comes to medicare for senior citizens. sources briefed on the subject say the move is expected to happen tuesday. the controversial program is part of the inflation reduction act, which democrats pushed througcongress last year, and any new prices negotiated would take effect in 2026. the congressional budget office estimates it could save medicare more than $98 billion in ten years. >>> and president biden says he's signed off on a proposal to request more congressional funding to fight covid-19. officials say

match up nikki haley's legislative record against kamala harris'.ved, governor, senator, in state government, see where you end up. on the merits they would be able to show competence versus incompetence. >> as dana was saying, jesse, 69% of democrats think joe biden is too old to be president. certainly someone like gavin newsom is waiting in the wings. why doesn't he just announce? >> he will if joe falls again. i'm not kidding about that. one more fall and gavin basically starts charging the mound. this country is teetering. you listen to it at cocktail parties. everyone is whispering about it on vacation. democrats are openly talking about whether or not joe biden is gonna make it. that's why gavin's been warming up. when is he debating desantis? and kamala's not happy that that debate is going on. she feels one upped. she's next in line, allegedly, and you have this charismatic white guy with great hair in california with a lot of money basically trying to inch up onto the stage while everybody's talking badly about her. listen, to the question

so look, haley, one debate came out on top. she may get momentum from her performance. >> bill: the play-in game. josh holmes said the other day normally in a debate you want to survive in advance. josh's point was you can't just survive in advance when you are down 40 points. you have to dominate. that's a question for you. do you think she dominated or just exceeded expectations? >> she lives to move to the next debate in simi valley next month. what haley, tim scott, any of the republicans on stage need to do is consolidate the 60% or so of republicans that may be willing to consider someone else other than trump as the nominee. and if you are mike bairns and chris christie you are in the anti-trump lane. i don't know if that's enough to win the republican nomination. for haley, desantis, tim scott, they have that up side. >> dana: desantis. there was a lot of lead-up saying he wanted to say it is a two-person race between him and donald trump. was he effective in doing that last night? >> bill: i thought we would see more.

mike: why should voters take a closer look at ambassador haley?i think nikki haley said at the best this morning. as a two-term governor and the former ambassador to the un, she has what no other candidate on that stage is going to demonstrate. she is a foreign policy, domestic with economics and she talks a lot about. she is not afraid to. she has been traveling quite a bit to 80 town halls across iowa and new hampshire demonstrating that she has the toughness and she's been taking the tough questions, she did the soapbox at the iowa state fair like a lot of the candidates, she did a great job. i think we are looking forward to the next phase of the campaign when we kick it off on wednesday with the debate. mike: ron desantis has been dealing with sky high expectations. there is criticism of his campaign, how critical is it for a moment this week on the debate stage. >> i don't think anyone debate is make or break. fox has done a great job we will have a huge audience tens of millions of people to needed, republican primary voters, as kirsten sai

nikki haley had the best debate by far.hris christie and mike pence were crisp and didn't play to the base, but they really did say, look,s this is where stand. that's compelling to voters. i think desantis didn't have abreakout moment. >> he did not want people raising their hands. >> it's not kind erergarten he said. >> scott, especially in iowa, this is he did not have that kind of breakout moment that he really needed last night. >> was he too polite? >> he didn't elbow his way into the conversation as much. >> he was third from the bottom on the ranking of those who spoke. just ahead of burgum and hutchinson, who barely got on to the stage. so if we look at the question of donald trump and his decision not to participate, was there anything last night that you saw that said he should reconsider that for the september debate? >> he should just supporting the voters. politically, donald trump is going to do what he wants to do. he thought he had the best chance of,b taking back the attention, taking the oxygen out of the

but haley is brushing it off. listen. >> i am not going to get into the childish name calling or making fun of my name he's doing. he should know better than that. i've given up on him knowing better than anything at this point. >> brooke: haley did see largest boofrt in polling out of all the candidate and raked in $1 million in dopations in 72 hours after the debate. >> todd: thank you. bring in beverly hallberg, president of the district media group. should should six-point drop worry trump enough to drive him into future debates or is that 38-point lead so insurmountable at this point? >> i don't think he should worry as he has his mug shot going forward. next debate is next month in california and see if his poll numbers drop. if he sees that, i think he will jump into the race again. one thing to consider, when he's not on the stage, people are not talking about him as much, he comes a center of the room when there. he will weigh it after each debate to determine if poll numbers are so far down he needs to g

or a haley -- >> haley/desantis. haley/desantis. >> reporter: the shopping will continue.n policy will shape the final choice. >> the question is, can she win, right? so, that's my main question. she personally would be my favorite candidate right now. but desantis, you know, at this point looks more viable. >> reporter: pass the popcorn. the second debate is in a month. >> it's so interesting to hear that thinking. john king reporting. >>> just ahead, as millions of students across the country kick off the new school year, gary tuchman travelled to nashville, the site of a school shooting in march to attend an active training shooting for teachers. his report is next. ically shown to protect your ears from dizziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss.s. nevever miss a moment with lipo flavonoid. i'm patriotic kenny. and, hi, i'm amanda on tiktok. my scooter broke down. i went into a depression. how do you feel about that? pretty sad. and i posted it to show that kenny's not always happy. within 24 hours people had donated over $5,000. no, you're kidding. we set up the pa

nikki haley used that moment, foreign policy as the former u.n. ambassador is going to be her calling card here. she uses that moment, hits him on being inexperienced, taking him on, driving a message on russia and china. again, she understood the format. she understood exactly how to pivot off of people and use quite frankly somebody else's moment to steal the spotlight and show leadership and make it her moment. so a really important, i think, series of clips and exchanges that i think she showed that she commanded that stage better, i think, than any of the other candidates. i would say too whether it was on the abortion question or on the ukraine question, again, i go to ron desantis. in the ukraine question, do you support or oppose more money. i think europe should do more, and then nikki haley hit them on europe doing a lot. on the life question do you support a six-week ban or 15-week ban. i'm for life. these are answers that make him sound very much like a politician. it's what ramaswamy's doing well in not sounding like a politician. it'

haley typically geltz events that are at capacity.een steadily growing with the event ever closer. they're at capacity inside. folks walking in behind me now seem readily prepared to be standing room only if they have to. some of them i've spoken to in this line say they're here because they saw haley's debate performance and they're interested and want to learn more or it reinforced their idea that this is someone who could win the nomination, but aware this the trump's party. one man plans to not vote republican at all in the general election, someone who would vote for biden. he said if it he had to vote for a republican and it weren't trump, polls, there is an opening for someone else. maybe it's nikki haley. maybe it's someone else. >> ali vitali, thank you very much. so, matthew, is there increasingly any opening that you see, even a tiny little bit, because at this point, frankly that's what the campaigns are looking for. they didn't get any big bump, nobody did. >> it's like i was thinking as you were going through this, it's

even nikki haley threw a jab. i mean, if you're vivek and you're up on stage and everyone's gunning for you with, that's because you're probably the most feared person on the stage, and you might be the front-runner. i think from that standpoint, i mean, it actually, in my opinion, makes vivek look stronger. cheryl: todd, that was my question to doug collins last hour, is there some internal polling that we have not seen that those candidates on that stage have seen that shows that vivek ramaswamy is stronger than we are seeing in public right now, internal polling? >> i think that is a great guess on your part. there has to be. and if i'm vivek, i'm going into this night thinking, why are they attacking me in but then you can see, he starts to smile as he's attacked, almost like he's acknowledging what mark said. i must be doing very well if they are attacking maine as for these specific attacks, look, i'm a jersey guy, love chris christie, know him. i don't understand what he was doing going after vivek ramaswam