the task force is co-chaired by former governors haley barbour, ed rendell, and former secretaries condoleeza rice and henry cisneros and includes business leaders, farmers members of cabinet and cabinet members and like former secretary michael chertoff a couple words about the project today. immigration reform legislation has been debated in congress over past few years, particularly last summer which saw arrival of thousands unbe a companied children and families from central america. that caused challenges for the border agencies. one key area keeps coming back and that is the issue of securing our border. this is continuous mantra for many leaders and put forward by some as precondition to immigration reform it is very ill-defined concept and it is rather not well-understood. in fact when it comes to border security the lack of understanding and solid data tends to make a secure border something in the eye of the beholder. yet this isn't a really good way to make policy so we at bpc engaged in a project to determine the best ways to measure the security of the border and effectiveness of

the task force cochaired by former governors haley barbour and ed rendell former secretary condoleezza rice and henry cisneros and former members of congress business leaders advocates and other former cabinet secretaries including our first speaker today secretary michael chertoff. before introduce the secretary just a couple of words about the topic today. as immigration reform legislation has been debated in congress over the last few years and in particular last summer which saw the arrival of thousands of unaccompanied children and families from central america and it the cost challenges for our border agencies one key area keeps coming back and immigration discussion and that is the issue of securing our border. while this has been a continuous problem for many leaders and put forward by some as a precondition for immigration reform, it is a very ill-defined concept and it's rather not well understood. in fact when it comes to border security that lack of understanding in solid data tends to make a secure border something that is in the eye of the beholder. yet this isn't a good

you know this is only not impugning the individuals, but my former governor haley barbour is known. he headed the republican national committee. very active person in the community, and somebody who is interested in jobs. i'm told he contacted your office on behalf of gulf coast, is that correct? >> yes, congressman. >> and i just want people to understand that the perception is here you have a republican governor contacting a democratic administration on behalf of a job creator, but an ig report gives you the impression that only democrats contact the agency. now i understand that both my senators, wicker and cochran, contacted your office on behalf of this very same project, am i correct? >> i believe that's correct. >> former member of this committee who just left two weeks ago contacted your office on behalf of this very same project. am i correct? >>. >> i believe so. >> and the point i'm trying to make is we get an inspector general's report that would lead you to believe that only democrats contacted on behalf of this job creation program. let's go to the l.a. films program.