amy: i want to say when i saw the two of you, anthony arnove and haley pessin, on the stage of town hallit really was a beautiful sight. you have a generation between you. and haley, i'm wondering if you can talk about how you discovered howard zinn's writing and how you came to co-edit this book. >> i discovered howard zinn as a high school student. so i was lucky to have "a people's history of the united states" as one of the books that we read. and i really read it voraciously in a way that a textbook had ever really grabbed my attention. this one was very much a breath of fresh air because i was an activist. and it was a book that began with christopher columbus, but really unpacked his actual legacy, in his own words, through his diaries showing that rather than the brave explorer that we were all taught to admire growing up, he immediately saw that his job while being in the new world was to enslave and to kill indians, to kill native americans. so the seeing that and understanding that this was the history that this country was founded on was really profound, but also the acts of