hallie, don't miss her show, hallie jackson now, coming up at 5:00 p.m. eastern, streaming live on nbc news now. >>> gilgo beach serial killer rex heuermann was in a courtroom today. >> he's pleaded not guilty in their murders. heuermann the lead suspect in the murder of a fourth woman. let's bring in ron allen who joins us outside the courthouse in riverhead, new york, what's happening right now? >> reporter: well the hearing just ended. heuermann, some still photographs that show him in a khaki pants, blue shirt. looked over at the prosecution as the prosecution was talking about the massive amount of evidence they say they have in this case. that's what this was mostly about, called discovery and how the prosecution is going to get this information to the defense in the coming weeks and months. the next hearing date was set for late september, the 27th of september, but a lot of the discussion as we understand it between the judge and the attorneys not in court but on side bars and forth was about the logistics to get this information to the defense, 2

is anything but when you look at the scope of where we've been in modern american history. >> hallie jackson carol lam, thank you both, a lot of historic stuff to break down. we appreciate it. >> be sure to join hallie later today on "hallie jackson now," she is streaming live right here on nbc news now. >>> let's talk money with today's cnbc money minute. hyundai is issuing a major recall. >>> and starbucks is trying something new at the drive-through window. steve kovach joins us now. >> i always have a starbucks story for you guys. honday is recalling 40,000 vehicles due to a software risk that can cause the car to accelerate after release the brake. it recalls elantra hybrid vehicles from 2021 to 2023. the company will upgrade the software free of charge. >>> spirit airlines will pay over $8 million to settle a class action lawsuit over surprise fees. passengers say the budget airline added carry-on bag fees to tickets bought from third-party vendors. that includes expedia and travelocity. eligible travelers seeking refunds will get up to 75% of their fees back depending on the number of

nbc news senior washington correspondent hallie jackson.house of the new york times. republican strategist al carden as and kimberly atkins stohr. three of you have law degrees and three of them don't. i'm glad there is more legal help here. here's what donald trump said last night about his current legal predicament. >> every time they file an indictment we go way up in the polls. we need one more indictment to close out this election. one more indictment and this election is closed out. nobody has even a chance. we've already defeated the republicans. >> hallie jackson, that was actually friday night and he had rallies both friday night and last night there. he's been right so far. >> fair and there's new polling out even today that shows more than half of republicans think that these indictments against donald trump are an attack against people like them. he is reflecting and channeling what he hears from his base, from the people who support him and from his loyalists. >> the dynamics seem unlikely to change at this point. the question

we've already defeated the republicans. >> hallie jackson, that was actually friday night. his rallies both friday night and last night. he's been right so far. >> fair, and there's new polling out even today that shows more than half of republicans think that these indictments against donald trump are an attack against people like them. he is reflecting and channelling what he hears from his base, from the people who support him, from his loyalists. the dynamics don't seem to have changed. we've seen a semi-sharp tone from pence and desantis. >> those closer to trump but not so tough. here it is. >> anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be president of the united states. >> another sad day for america. now we have former president that's under indictment three times. >> in d.c. they will go after you if you're a republican. the facts are damned. republicans don't have a fair shot there. >> doj continues to weaponize their power against political opponents. seems like they spent a lot of time protecting hunter biden. >> like most americans, i'm tired

. >>> let's bring in senior washington correspondent hallie jackson, senior legal correspondent laurakristen welker and legal analyst danny cevallos. this is the third indictment of this former president, but these charges, to many, stand alone. kristen welker, this is the first time we're seeing a former president accused of trying to stop the democratic process, the lawful election of a president. >> and as you said at the top these are among the most serious charges that he's facing in the indictments. it's a somber moment for the country undoubted lead. what does it mean politically with each indictment. we've seen his poll numbers go up and his fund-raising go up and his super pac has paid out more money in legal bills than it's brought in in this past year and he's just become increasingly emboldened in this republican primary. notably speaking, his former vice president mike pence for the first time really started to sharpen his tone yesterday to say anyone who has violated the constitution in this way should not be president, but for the most part his gop challengers have real

nbc's hallie jackson breaks it all down for us. >> you probably know how a presidential election works to the polls to choose who they want as president. if enough voters back a certain candidate, that candidate gets electoral college votes from that state. the winner needs 270, that's the magic number. >> here is the road to 270. >> so, that's what you see on tv. you typically don't see what happens next, because it's usually a formality, as members of the electoral college pick it up from there. those members, called electors, are selected by state parties months before election day. after every presidential election in december, each state gathers together electors from whichever party won the popular vote in that state. those folks meet and said an official certificate to the national archives and to congress. they look like these and they basically say, okay, this is who gets our states electoral college votes. it's pretty ceremonial. except in 2020. that's when the former president and his allies got to work, convincing loyalists in seven states that they should back republican e

. >> i want to turn to the politics here and bring in hallie jackson, nobody knows what washington like you do, hallie, you have a lot of sources, how is this playing within the republican party, he's still the front-runner the election, what are you hearing in. >> he sure is. front-runner for now. we have seen in past indictments only kept his grip on the republican party for voters in primary here, what's interesting, what i'm watching today how his rival candidates who are trailing by 20 points are going to talk about this indictment. you're seeing a spectrum of things. with former vice president mike pence, in this intightment he's a central figure because he's the guy who rejected this scheme that donald trump is being accused of here, accused of breaking the law, we're now hearing from the former vice president on camera for the first time in indiana. he's sharp on this. listen. >> as i seek the republican nomination, despite what donald trump has said over the last 2 1/2 years that i had no right to overturn the election, on that day he asked me to choose him over the constitutio

i'm hallie jackson in for willie geist.seems too much to bear but we are learning the maui fire is the deadliest in history. more than 90 people confirmed dead after that fast-burning fire engulfed the entire neighborhood of lahaina. we'll have the latest in a live report from maui just ahead. >>> plus, the sunday focus on sharks after a new york city beach goer was attacked this week with several other close calls coast to coast. are sharks getting more bold or are we just capturing more on camera? >>> how they're hoping to help make orchestras look more like the rest of the country. >>> later as we continue our oscars august, a sunday sitdown with brendan frazier on his extraordinary performance on "the whale" and what he thinks of all the talk about his comeback. >> i'm glad you used that term because i was not going to use it. >> let's get it out of the way. i mean, on the one hand, it's funny. but i'm also hearing everyone else is having a remember nas ending on their name, too. >> plus, another life well-lived later o

i'm hallie jackson in for willie geist, who will be back right here next week. >>> and this morning millions of people on the west coast are bracing for a once-in-a-lifetime storm, hurricane hilary bearing down as we speak, the first tropical system there in nearly a century. hilary has already turned deadly in mexico dropping heavy rain, washing out roads, triggering flash flooding, and now new warnings this morning and new concerns about all the water this storm is set to drop on bone-dry southern california and whether that region can handle it. we'll have the latest in a live report and your forecast just ahead. >>> plus, our quugs sunday focus" on the hit movie "the blind side." a feelgood movie taking an ugly turn. >>> then our "sunday spotlight" on the island community off the coast of maryland at risk of disappearing under water just a few decades from now and the people who live there and who are moving there who say they don't plan to go anywhere. >>> later as wee continue oscar august, willie's "sunday sitdown" with h golden glolobe winner austinn butler on steppig into the shoes