even after carter page had been kind of smeared improperly as a quote, unquote, russian spy, stefan halpertnce you saw the massive payments corresponding to when he was surveilling page and papadopoulos which i learned about in 2018, there could be a connection there. there's a theory about how that played out. the key part and i think the real smokeing gun in all of this is all these tentacles lead back to the small group. none of the senate has subpoenaed or called these people to talk in four years. i think that's the real smoking gun. maria: so what about that, congressman? are these the informants that were paid to set up trump campaign people and are they protected? >> well, it's really interesting, maria. thank goodness for you because you kept on this. we've been talking about this for a long time. we've been on your show, jim jordan, senator johnson and others. when they wanted us to stop talking, they wanted to put it ayeah as if it never happened. as we peel back the onion, another layer comes off and the information we're getting here reveals how deep this is and why the senate