when hamas sided with the anti-assad rebels, iran stopped giving hamas more than $10 million a month. now israel's long-standing ally, the u.s. is reaching out to new players to help mediate a bill, qatar and turkey, both support hamas. >> we'll begin this look at hamas and shifting alliances in the wider middle east. with a member of the palestinian parliament for jericho and long-time chief negotiator for the palestinians in peace talks with israel. welcome to "inside story." >> thank you. >> it was just a few months that it was announced that a deal has been reached and there was a new unity government once again linking up gaza with the west bank bring authority. what has this conflict done with that relationship? will it survive this battle? >> indeed, it will. the whole war being raged by israel against the palestinian people has is not just for war. there is a political objective here. number one, he wants to destroy the two-state solution once and for all. number two, he wants to keep the gaza strip separate from the west bank and under mind the government and he wants to unde

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there's some concern if they get rid of hamas, what comes next, they may actually miss hamas.from your assessment, if hamas falls, what other radical groups out there could in fact take over gaza? >> john, first of all, we have to look at hamas as not an international terrorist organization, and it's in their terms, they're fairly moderate. in the mid '90s, started to car bomb israeli cities and busses, they eventually stopped that. part of it was the israelis closed them down, but they have not generally attacked targets outside of gaza. it's not that the israelis feel safe, of course, with hamas, but the question is, israeli influence is not such that they cannot replace it with a new group. fatah, the palestinian organization, is discredited in gaza completely, which leaves you as robert brought up earlier, a bunch of disparate groups, they killed and murdered aid workers in the past, they may have taken this israeli lieutenant and captured or killed him. so they're sort of -- this is terror incognito for the terrorists and they don't have easy choice. these groups are not

of hamas. we know that they've utilized and built these tunnels for specifically these kinds of attacks. and that is what they're doing. >> as far as you know, has anyone claimed responsibility for capturing the israeli soldier? >> no, i'm not aware. >> so nobody's made any announcements or anything along those lines. you're looking -- there's a massive search under way. i take it you're going house to house in that rafah area near that tunnel, is that right? >> we're utilizing everything we have. whether it's infantry men. whether it's intelligence capabilities we have. this is a grave, grave situation that has the potential of extreme escalation. we are taking it extremely serious. we don't want this. we were happy with the cease-fire that was in place. we had 90 minutes of cease-fire. we were looking to be at this hour, 12 hours after that cease-fire, but they chose to escala escalate, they choose to carry out this attack. now we're in pursuit of them. this terrorist organization, hamas, can

either hamas outright rejects the cease-fire or hamas violates the cease-fire and continues shooting at israel and we've had as you know more than 3,000 rockets fired at israel from the gaza strip. so, hamas has to understand a cease-fire means they also cease-fire and they haven't got it yet. >> but maybe they'll change their mind. is it worth a try? >> well, you know, we've been waiting quite a long time. i think the truth is the most people disappointed with hamas are those diplomats people like john kerry and people like ban ki-moon who put in the time and the effort and then just have hamas slam the door in their face. let me be clear here. israel is currently conducting a military come pain against hamas to stom t stop the missiles and deal with the tunnels. but we're already vacating parts of the gaza strip where we've completed the operations. >> withdrawing troops. >> we're redeploying where we've taken out and destroyed missiles and other hamas terror targets. we are pulling back and redeploying. ultimately it's quite possible understanding that hamas is not a partner for a

hamas.y weakening hamas. that is because while israel can go into gaza and the straight requirehat would conquering the gaza strip, staying there for a long time. i would say at least a year. some israelis believe three years. you compare what happened in the west bank, when israel went in, and operation defensively in 2000 two, to stop suicide bombing attacks, it took us dismantle most of the terror infrastructure and the west bank. gaza is much more complicated, densely populated. and hamas is stronger, much stronger. , and the factt that conquering gaza would come with a high price of casualties also theides, it was challenge of an exit strategy from israel. ultimately, who do you handed over to? i do not think they would like to go into gaza under is really banners. they may find themselves ultimately facing numerous groups, including jihad e-groups jihadi grooves. even though there are heavy public pressures on governments to go all the way, stop this threat once and for all, they compl

hamas fell about 70 hours short. the two sides blame each other for the continuing fighting and dying. that's the inside story. >> hello, i'm ray suarez. it was thursday evening eastern time in the united states when the news broke friday morning would begin a three-day cease-fire between israelis and palestinians fighting in gaza. during the overnight hours before americans even woke up, the cease-fire was gone. lost in a haze of mutual acrimony and continued violence. the intense diplomacy from secretary general ban ki-moon and secretary of state john kerry, and not coming to much. israel has declared they have the intention to keep fighting until all the tunnels leading into israel have been destroyed alliances and support within the region are being fractured and redrawn. >> reporter: when the cease-fire collapsed the finger pointing began. hamas blamed israel for advancing on the town of rafa on the pretext of destroying tunnel. israel said that it was destroying a tunnel when a a bombing occurred. >> that soldi

hamas started the war. hamas carried out the war. hamas fired rockets at israeli civilians from within civilian neighborhoods in the gaza strip so that israel would then retaliate and cause civilian casualties on the palestinian side. that's how they work. how does it end? if it ends with a decisive hamas defeat when hamas can't replenish its rocket supply, then actually all will be saving palestinian lives because the next time this happens whether it's in a year or two years, it will be a much bigger war with bigger rockets, long-range rockets. hamas will be even more dug in and more people will die. it's difficult to internalize that. this suffering is not for not. this suffering will put an end to greater suffering in the long run. >> i want to ask you one final question which is how much credibility the american people should be giving to the united nations. because the secretary general ban ki-moon has been a bit more measured calling for israel to be more careful when it comes to the civilian casualties. but today we heard fro

but this is not hamas.s the al nasr salahuddin brigades, one of more than half a dozen different groups in gaza. this group says it helped kidnap israeli soldier gilad shalit in 2006. they have been training to kidnap more. a perfect example of why israel and its allies should be worried by far more than just hamas. but with an israeli soldier now gone, the blame is on hamas. >> we can't confirm, we can't deny unless we have solid information. this is a real position. if that soldier was captured by any other organization, we don't have any information. >> reporter: sounding as baffled as anyone, the hamas political leadership is not even in gaza. it's based in qatar. they say the occupation prevents them from going home. the reality is israel would likely target them if they did. leader khaled meshaal has only been to gaza once back this 2012. to effectively run gaza, you have to be in gaza. another problem for hamas, logistics. imagine an area the size of detroit with no power, little water, 1.8 million r

terrorists so the numbers are given by hamas health ministry are total lies if hamas can kill innocent people they can certainly lie about these numbers. that's a new one for me i don't know that the numbers were inflated i've seen a lot of backing out to validate that max if you have any. more than one even tell his own donors certain numbers and that's why the z.o.a. is lost its tax exempt status so we expect this kind of. that is a guy. on the profit organization stop lying we are a nonprofit organization a five a one c. the huge scandal the organism shall have now only we're fully validated as a non-problem station snyder lying even about that you're lying and lying and lying and calling donors are innocent or you will do ok ok badly want to get it let's get your solution the ceasefire continues to fail max all right well. well the ceasefire continues to fail because of the desire for netanyahu in the who is being pushed from the right to kill more to satiate the kind of blood lust we're seeing and yet we've seen netanyahu confess today and fishel statement that one hundred percent

this terrifying attack airing on hamas's al aqa tv shows hamas militants attacking israeli soldiers afterfacing from a tunnel in israel. according to the idf, they shoot and kill five israeli soldiers. then disappear into the same tunnel. the idf is using every means possible to take these tunnels out -- bulldozers, drones, and explosives. tunnels like these are not new. back in 2006, extremists use a tunnel to kidnap israeli soldier gilad shalit. he was held for five years before israel freed more than one thousand palestinian prisoners in exchange for his safe return. hamas says the tunnels aren't used for kidnapping or to harm israelis, but simply to ferry basic supplies like food and medicine, things that are hard to get since in 2007, israel put a strict blockage on goods coming into gaza. israel says the blockade is to limit hamas's access to rockets and other weaponry. but the blockade only moved the ferrying of weapons underground to the tunnels. >> hamas has used them on various occasions and has planned on using them again for major terror attacks on communities in the south of

hamas has used schools.d they used hospitals as weapon depots and put tunnels in people's homes. that is a reality of a territory organization. >> israel has done everything you mentioned that palestinian has done. >> we have to take a break. weighing in on the breaking news on cnn. we just learned in the last 45 minutes the israeli soldier thought to be captured yesterday morning has now been confirmed dead by the idf. 23-year-old hadar goldin. we will be back with more straight ahead. vo: this is the. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand. and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there, with over 50,000 hotels at $150 dollars or less. expedia. find yours. veggies you're cool... reworking the menu. mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals. 9 grams of protein... with 30% less sugars than before. ensure, your #1 dr. recommended

and not hamas. hamas can't be treated as though it were not real or doesn't exist or exists militarily or doesn't exist politically. don't. >> good to have you with us. >> joining us from tel aviv. a member for the knesset. he served as deputy defence minister. you were relieved of your duties because you criticised binyamin netanyahu's position to accept an earlier ceasefire with hamas, that hamas rejected anyway. you believe that israel needs to be more aggressive dealing with hamas. how far does israel need to go in light of a massive loss of civilian life. >> i have been saying it for a few weeks. we have to do what is necessary to protect our people. we cannot continue when you have dozens of tunnels beneath our borders. we left gaza in my opinion years ago. have you no jewish commoupties or sentiments. you have offensive tunnels. that is why we are still in gaza. dealing with the tunnels. >> it's not aggressive to get rid of the tunnels. do you advocate destroying any capability that hamas may

you have to understand that hamas is not only hamas. of a larger evil, if you want to say, hostile coalition with other countries. basically it's the muslim brotherhood, the global muslim brotherhood which hamas belongs to. hamas has been playing double jeopardy with my people in order to gain political gain in the region and terrorize the moderate camp of the region. basically hamas is now connected with qatar, the government or the king of jordan and syria and iran. and for that make a point, a political point, hamas doesn't mind palestinians die. to answer your question, yes, most of them have turned against hamas. just two days ago there was a process in gaza where people protested against hamas. and five of them, i can confirm, five of them were shot dead by hamas. and 20 injured. so the tide is changing. the only reason hamas is keeping the ground in gaza now is because of its military power. it's basically a dictatorship playing their agenda of other countries like qatar and those hostile nation. >> well, qatar is obviously fundi

hamas needs fatah as much as fatah needs hamas. hamas understands their is no chance to open the border in gaza without a role for the palestinian authority. at the same time, the palestinian has been desperately keen for a role in gaza and mahmoud abbas has been trying to reassert his relevance in things related to gaza. there is a win-win situation in terms of the relevance of both sides. hamas' position now is very firmly embedded into the palestinian landscape. in a way that a month ago it was not. it was much more precarious. like that of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. now, they are, you have got this broader palestinian safety net around hamas that has cushioned it. >> perhaps that presents an opportunity for later negotiations, if later negotiations are an option. with that, we should take a look at the israeli side of the equation. if we look at the israeli position three weeks ago and the way the cease-fire came about, it seems as though the israeli government got everything it said it wanted. an opportunity to go and de

souls against the civilian population in israel no hamas missiles no israeli retaliation and hamas has told civilians to stay in their homes when israel warns them to get out of their homes out of them out of schools and mosques where there are missiles stored and hamas tells them stay there if you are there israel will not attack so israel simply hits military installations where their missiles or rocket launchers do you know that gas arabs are paid or rent for rocket launchers that they rent out their living rooms to hamas so rocket launchers can be in hundreds of homes of the gas arabs there so they have a living rooms they have dining rooms they have kitchens they have missile rooms were rocket launchers are there so the guys the civilians get paid rent for israel for a cease fire stop laughing israel has offered many cease fires hamas has violated every one of them this is the map this is the this is the picture of the of the emblem of the palestinian authority a shape of all of this rules that are showing all of his role as palestine yasser arafat's the arch terrorist honored wit

favor of peace and hamas has never wanted to negotiate with israel and hamas of course on the terrorist list of both the european union and the united states or america understanding that their goal is israel's destruction and the murder of every single jew so he's just lying about the targeting the civilians and targeting hospitals it's only when they tell people to leave certain areas because of missile launchers because of ministration hamas administration people having their offices there no hamas missiles no israeli retaliation and mr blumenthal knows that full well but somehow he gets pleasure at a siding with the enemies of the jews maybe it makes him feel safe in the principle this is a frightened person match blumenthal siding with the enemies of the jewish people because it makes him feel more secure and safe feeling if i side with the enemies of the jews maybe they'll leave me match blumenthal alone well let's talk about the facts here what israel's was to do to stop the rockets and i haven't seen any reports other than those rockets and they have abandoned u.n. school but i

look, hamas really has a choice. everybody wants to see hamas get humanitarian achlid.wants to see hamas flourish the way israel wanted to see it flourish in 2005. but israt can have a choice. it can have the rockets and tunnels, or the blockade. it can't end the blockade and still continue to import rockets and still use the concrete it's going get from the end of the blockade to build more tunnels. that just will not be allowed to happen. it makes all the sense in the world for the blockade to end and for hamas to be disarmed from rockets in their tunnels. >> and elise, as our global affairs correspondent in washington and beyond, was there a feeling that the secretary of state may have botched this initially? is this redemption? >> well, i think that if you talk to administration officials, don, they are really kind of outraged at the criticism of secretary kerry. i mean, occasionally he may be accused of not being the most artful diplomat from time to time. but certainly he has been working his tail off for the last year or so, trying to get a deal between israelis

who said we can't trust hamas. it was his government that negotiated a cease-fire in the year 2012 and it was in place for two years. >> now, you heard wolf blitzer say a short time ago this completely changes the equation in gaza in this fighting. earlier, wolf spoke to mark regev. listen to what he said. >> our goal is to achieve peace and quiet for the people of israeli and end rocket fire and terrorist tunnels. so far, hamas has closed the door, slammed the door shut on any sort of diplomatic solution. i thri ns no doubt that what hams has done today is not only under mined the chances ever a humanitarian cease-fire, it has led to a very dangerous escalation. >> the last time hamas took a soldier prisoner, israel responded immediately. hamas held him for five years and there was a very large prisoner exchange. wolf says his sources indicate it's unlikely to occur again. >>> blame flying on both sides as the violence erupts in gaza just 90 minutes after that cease-fire was put in place. we are going to bring you

what hamas does. have issued a statement. they have not confirmed it. they have only told reporters and you heard karl penhaul say they have a unique swaying. now we'll see what happens. it does underscore the fragility of what's going on right now, and it underscores that potentially this is going to get a whole lot worse. as bad as it's been potentially this could get a whole lot worse. >> let's also bring in aaron david miller to continue this discussion. he's advised six secretaries of state and a distinguished scholar at the woodrow wilson institute. i've leaned on you a lot when we've been talking about the peace process. where are we right now? is there any way to revive what we thought was a best chance of a cease-fire and as secretary kerry called it an opportunity to begin working towards a solution? >> you know, kate, the answer is no and here's why. because of the logic of this conflict suggested even with the good news of a 72-hour stand down that the urgency to actually conclude it is no

but coming back to hamas, i think it is also wrong to dismiss hamas as just a terrorist organization,, it won an election, it runs gaza as a government, it is represented in the parliament but it is also wrong and i think it is not accurate to make it analogous to isis and al qaeda, like the israeli prime minister often wanted to say. they chose violence as a method to gain the same aim that the palestinian wants which is independent palestinian state. the only difference is the they use it as a bargaining chip, the fact that in their carter they call for the decan instruction of israel, but mitchell himself said before in 1967, could be acceptable as the basis for a palestinian state. in this case, they are calculated organization, they are not reckless, but of course many people blame them for using the rocket attack israeli civilians for no political gain as such, in fact, they caused so much destruction in gaza and killed so many civilians, as a result. so we have a situation now that the unity government that by the way is not formed by hamas, it is a government of technocrats th

we know that gaza and hamas does not settle easily. israeli soerls are up against a very tough fight. there's a lot of criticism about innocent civilians and children who have been killed in this process, but it is hamas right now that is in control of whether or not there is a cease-fire. >> and that's been the stumbling block for israel moving forward. we've seen the cease-fire break down again because of an action by hamas that was threatening the people of israel. ambassador gillerman, it's kelly wright. when we see this kind of behavior from hamas, how difficult is it for you to move forward with any kind of cease-fire that could ultimately lead to some sort of a break and thawing of the harsh reality that exists there? that's the fact that you're under duress and under stress. >> well, as i said before, i do not believe that this is about a cease-fire. i believe this is about israel taking an action which it believes to be the right one to actually reposition itself. i'm not even sure that all israeli troops or most israeli troop

to negotiate with hamas? >> i ask the same -- why is the u.s. recognizing and rewarding hamas when in the very beginning of this conflict, when hamas abducted three israeli teens, one which of had american citizenship and killed them immediately, hamas should have been indicted on murder charges. instead of being rewarded and being recognized by the united states, either directly or indirectly through the government of qatar which is also a support he of terrorism. and instead of being embraced by the united states, qatar should be on the list of countries supporting terrorism and sanctions. >> steve, we need qatar. we need them so we can find out the five worst terrorists so we can release them for one alleged deserter. let me ask you finally, why, what do you see is the future? there will continue to be shelling but israel thinks they've gotten all the tunnels? >> first of all, two things. one is hamas claimed that it didn't have, or didn't take, kidnap the soldier. i have here a claim, it was tranls-relate

of hamas and see hamas for what it really is. it is a terrorist organization targeted to really destroy the state of israel. >> every single show, we point out that the u.s. government considers hamas to be a terrorist organization. >> absolutely and rightly so. >> if you do not know for certain that hamas is responsible for this how is this different theoretically from when israeli treemists kidnapped that poor kid, muhammad kadir and burnt him alive? certainly i would not hold the israeli government responsible for that action and i understand that you are try that person but it seems to me perhaps israel without having all the facts about who absuspected the soldier then went off and continued to break the cease-fire assuming that hamas had broke the cease-fire. >> let's put things in clear perspective here. facts are the following. 90 minutes after a cease-fire, hamas broke a cease-fire and with a suicide bomber that killed two streel soldiers, abducted an israeli soldier. hamas this is the fifth time that hamas has broken a

that sort of favored hamas. not calling for hamas to fully disarm.t specific policy changes does secretary kerry and president obama need to make? >> well, i think to be fair to secretary kerry, i think he was focused on how do you stop the killing right now, and can you allow the -- in that context, can you allow the israelis to continue to destroy the tunnels. i think that was his objective. now, the question that many in israel saw was, was this something in the end that would allow hamas to escape the situation it was in. i don't believe that was secretary kerry's objective. i think now we look at where we are. i think the administration certainly saw the violation of the 72-hour cease-fire, and was very clear in terms of holding who was responsible, meaning hamas. the challenge now for us is to focus on how we ensure that we don't adopt any positions that in any way focus more on what hamas can do to win out of this. look again at what the israelis are trying to do. by not being prepared to negotiate even indirectly with hamas at this point, isr

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what is hamas saying about that?>> thomas so far officially denying capture of any israeli soldier -- hamas so far officially denying capture of any israeli soldier. they are saying israel is fabricating the story completely, and there was no capture of an israeli soldier. >> what about the cease-fire? hamas is saying israel is responsible for it falling apart. >> thomas is still accusing israel -- hamas is still accusing israel. the shelling continued even after it :00 in the morning when the cease-fire went into effect. they said the confrontation to the troops was before 8:00 -- it was about 7:00 in the morning. so far, hamas is sticking to their story that israel violated the cease-fire agreement. >> the attacks in response to the apparent capture of the soldier worse than what we have seen in the past days. up to perhaps 70 dead in that attack. what are people in gaza expecting in the days and hours ahead? >> now, it is very dangerous. they are expecting more bombardment. the fear is very deep that there will be

they don't trust hamas. they think hamas had a chance to honor this cease-fire. they blame hamas directly for breaking the cease-fire. they're very pleased that president obama, secretary of state kerry, now have almost completely endorsed israel's version of what happened. in a statement the president just made, written statement that secretary kerry made a few hours ago, blame hamas for breaking the cease-fire. they say hamas must release that soldier immediately, as soon as possible, if there is going to be any hope to end the bloodshed, the violence, what's going on in gaza right now. the president at the same time did express his concern over the civilian casualties in gaza, he says it was painful for him, for everyone to see children and women and everyone else, the innocent civilians who have been killed. but he did note as the israelis repeatedly do, that hamas deliberately places rocket launchers, and other military operations in the midst of populated civilian centers. that's what israel says. now the president of the united states says the same thing.

hamas is paying a very heavy price. we act in a most resolute way to destroy the tunnels, kill the terrorists, and destroy their capability of missiles and rockets. yesterday our army destroyed a campus of islamic university in gaza where under the guise of activities they develop explosive device. we continue hurting the hamas. we will not compromise the security of israeli people. this operation continues for a long time. hamas suffers and actually created this problem for themselves. we will continue and we are supported by you, citizens of israel, and they, the leaders of hamas will know that we will continue acting against those goals until the goal will be accomplished. i am very pleased with the operation by the soldiers and officers who are defending israeli citizens. our soldiers and officers, members of the general security service, male and female soldiers, men and women, people in active service display strength and resilience, do excellent job. we understand the dangers and the soldiers understand the very

>> hamas will be at the table. they sent a couple of representatives over the weekend, at least two other members from gaza are making their way here to cairo, according to palestinian television. i think everyone agrees, without hamas here in cairo being part of the negotiations, these talks wouldn't go forward because, of course, this is one side of the warring factions. they are not necessarily going to be sitting across from the table from the israelis, but they will be here in egypt. >> all right. in spite of the talks that may or may not take place in egypt, not many people believes there will actually be peace in the middle east? why? intense hatred, listen to what the hamas spokesperson said. we all remember how the jews used to slaughter christians in order to mix their blood in their holy matzoh, this is not a figment of the imagination of something taken from a film. wolf blitzer pressured him to take back what he said. >> i'm going to remind you what you said. >> i know what i've said. >> listen to this

candidates be used for housing authority as alternative to hamas hamas. there a way to create greater cooperation among this group on regional issues. the fact that he is talking about opportunity to suggest that he realizes this round of fighting needs to be thinking not only in terms of what it represents about hamas but what it means as a whole and new direction within us. >> the fact that you have many of the arab countries absolutely silent and israel is hammering gaza doesn't that tell you that there is a realignment? i have always believed egypt was a friend of the united states. the 79 cease support. what does it tell you? >> it tells me that what dennis is referring to this realignment is really taking place. i thought not only with the silence of the arab press they did not pile on top of israel when it started. also in the saudi king statements five minutes today in which he did not blame israel for the current round of fighting. they criticized hamas. there is a new from queen abdel-llah. there are all kinds of possibilities not only for israe

ceasefire that hamas has rejected. and so for all meshaal's crocodile tears about the people of gaza, it's his organization that has rejected both permanent and humanitarian ceasefires. this conflict could have ended three weeks ago, but hamas has rejected ceasefire after ceasefire and the conflict persists because of hamas's extremism. >> the idf has lost 64 soldiers, correct me if you have a new number. but you've lost more soldiers than in previous clashes. you may never know if you've dismantled every tunnel, and with every civilian death, it makes israel unsafe in the long-term. what point do you claim victory and stop the shelling? >> well, for us, victory is a protected israeli population. victory is no more rockets on israeli civilians. no more death squads coming out of tunnels in israeli territory. our operation is ultimately defensive. our goal is just to secure and protect our people. if there wasn't rocket fire from gaza, if there weren't these death squads trying to come across the border, we wouldn't hav

he is a hamas spokesman. he has no information hamas warriors -- >> he's from the political wing and a lot of experts say look, often the political wing has no idea what is happening on the ground. >> no question and fair point. i was only making the point, anderson, that statement, that wording leaves some wiggle room that he has no information. it doesn't mean they didn't attempt to do it. now you have the brigade, the military wing saying their forces may have attempted to do this. so exactly, it's an admission that that was underway. now to be clear, from the perspective of hamas tight fighters and palestinian leaders, this point was made to wolf blitzer in the last hour, this is a war, a battle the israelis captured many palestinian fighters. palestinian fighters capturing an israeli fighter in enemy contact, which hamas says was taking place while the seize fire was underway from their perspective, that would just be an act of war and not a war crime. so, you know, as always, you and i covered this for

hamas was mendacious. they gave assurances to the united nations and to others and they broke their commitments and they have to be held accountable for that. >> are israeli troops going house to house in that rafah area searching for this missing lieutenant? >> whenever you have a kidnapping like this, are it the operational behavior pattern is clear. you try to seal off the area of the kidnapping. as you say, you go house to house or maybe tunnel to tunnel in the immediate area to try to locate the kidnapped individual. why? because if they manage to get him out of the area into another part of gaza, your chances of fighting him are lowered. so there's a very intensive military operation under way to try to find him. >> are you prepared to negotiate for his release? in other words, release palestinian prisoners in exchange for this young lieutenant? >> the focus now is to try to find him and that's where the effort is. what will happen after that, i don't know. i hope we find him. >> any chance a cease-f

they had their tunnels, hamas.d their rockets, they had their infrastructure, some of their leaders. the same deal they were offered, you know, 90 -- so many weeks ago. they didn't take, now they're taking it. is it because they really lost the war? >> there can be no doubt that hamas has suffered very heavy blow to its military infrastructure, to its rocket stockpile and storages, to tunnels leading from gaza into israel. there's no doubt about it. but look, we didn't understand hamas in the first place. only three weeks ago, suddenly out of the blue, they began to launch hundreds of rockets every day into israel. and forced us to fight back. they refused to accept the proposal as you mentioned. already two or three weeks ago. and now they accepted it. let's wait and see. you know, with such terror organization, with such barbaric attitude like al qaeda, hamas, isis, boko haram -- >> the charter calls for oblitera obliteration of israel, the killing of jews, they say they at judgment will not come about until the

he blamed hamas as the israelis have blamed hamas, he is also saying it was a nightmare to see the horrible pictures coming out of gaza with all of the civilian casualties, although even he, the president, says hamas has itself partially to blame because it puts its military operations, its weapons, rocket launchers in heavily populated civilian areas. he said no country would be able to accept hundreds of rockets coming into populated centers as israel has had to deal with over the past four weeks, so the president basically said the kinds of things the israelis wanted him to say in that statement yesterday. what i am hearing, fred, i want sarah to weigh in as we await the prime minister of israel, about to make a major statement. i expected, this is what i heard from israeli military officials, they think they're close to eliminating hamas tunnels from gaza into israel. think they made tremendous progress on that front, also think they made significant amount of progress destroying a lot of hamas' other military capabilities. i believe the prime minister will make those points and explain

hamas needs fatah as much as fatah needs hamas. hamas understands their is no chance to open the border in gaza without a role for the palestinian authority. at the same time, the palestinian has been desperately keen for a role in gaza and mahmoud abbas has been trying to reassert his relevance in things related to gaza. there is a win-win situation in terms of the relevance of both sides. hamas' position now is very firmly embedded into the palestinian landscape. in a way that a month ago it was not. it was much more precarious. like that of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. now, they are, you have got this broader palestinian safety net around hamas that has cushioned it. >> perhaps that presents an opportunity for later negotiations, if later negotiations are an option. with that, we should take a look at the israeli side of the equation. if we look at the israeli position three weeks ago and the way the cease-fire came about, it seems as though the israeli government got everything it said it wanted. it got an opportunity to go

you say hamas's brand is rising.at least public image growing as a result of this, whereas israel is being damaged. >> i don't know if hamas is rising at a global level. we are seeing protests in europe. we're seeing the rise of some push back certainly against israel. uk supermarket has taken israeli produce from the gaza strip off the market. but more importantly what we're seeing is hamas is really reacting and pushing against the situation using 21st century media tactics were. they are using social media. they are using first person content. they are using video and wrenching images that are in real-time to explain to the world, explain to the world what's going on on the strip. and israel really isn't moving into the 21st century in terms of their media tactics. they are more concerned with the military conflict. they are more concerned with their impact there. but hamas is pushing at every opportunity to make sure that the world sees israel as the aggressor. that's something some affect. certainly it doesn't h