he is sitting right here as well along with hamed esmaeilion, both joining me now. now this is hard for you. i'm sure there's a lot to talk about two years later. if you can, take me back to that day that you learned of the crash of this plane. >> yeah. the day, january 8th, that was a day that they were supposed to -- the plane was supposed to land in toronto. i was supposed to go to the airport. the night before, the time that they took off from the tehran airport, i was cleaning the house. i was putting gas in the car. i was making everything ready for them after 13 days of their trip. i heard that iran had attacked u.s. bases in iraq. i was in agony. i was very stressed. when i saw the plane took off, when i saw the plane close to the borders, i said, okay, they are safe. that was just automatic. it was unreal. one hour later, i found eight missed calls. >> you started to figure out what happened? >> i realized what had happened. >> babak, the the film is incredible. so much about it is hamed seeking justice. why did you want to make this film? >> i did not set o

iranian activist — hamed esmaeilion — has helped organise some of the biggest protests over the deathold me why those global protests are so important: sot are so important: after the murder of mahsa amini, we decided to echo the voices of the iranian people inside the country. on the 1st of october we managed to organise a protest of a rally in more than 150 cities around the world. and we tried to repeat that in berlin on the 22nd of october. between 80,000 to 100,000 people to state they don't want this republic of iran any more. we are reminded by the picture over your left shoulder that you too are a victim and so many people are a victim of this regime. how effective do you think the protests you have organise have been? what we wanted to say. that the voice of the iranian people has been heard. i think the voice has been heard, but we didn't see a lot of concrete action being done by the western countries. we expected them to expel the ambassadors of the islamic republic of iran. we expected them to put the irc on the terrorist organisation list, and also see that they do the s