um -- this is from forest hamer who is a bay area poet who wrote berkeley late spring. this is berkeley late fall. i have been browsing the peet ree section had come to lose the unconcern but persistant rain that followed me in as a trail of damp shoe prints and dripping conscientious hacompanied to a solitude. i ran my right index if anything are across each spine flesh going along volume and groove. imagine the book seller anding by to fold and flatten we down to on an oblong shape and reshelf me into an americay sandwich between the t's and v's stacked up along the unexpected and unknown. i notice that the pe ems i imagine crowding around you were the unquieted the unrequited. distant citizens far from the disposition of the safety of s's the determinant d's and resultant r's where the poems are make believe. unlike the bumpy organic one i find myself wandering into. this one is about the moon. mabel and maureen. the moon regrets it's father's avd vise, take the night shift. [laughter]. each evening he dressed his forehead in linseed oil and drying powerhouse the exp

i'm not sure it resonates after a while when you hamer the two themes over and over. >> bret: jim, what the truth is? the administration says health and human services sebelius sent out a letter saying that the states could have flexibility. if they increased the work force by 20%. however, it was reauthorization that was two years overdue. some people are saying it was strange the way the whole thing was handled. >> yeah. there is a debate to be had about the let they're went out from the health and human services and the definition of work. administration says letting the states find new ways to find work. here is the thing, though. the campaign can defend the ads and tell you how they arrived at the conclusions but the explanation they offer is not what the ad says. it says he was gutting it. >> bret: does the ads have an effect is the question? >> i don't neif it will break through or not. really, with the economy being on most people's minds. evening hangs on the reality here whether it's -- what is the definition of work? there is some cause for skepticism here, because some of th

dean hamer: dna is like a blueprint that determines not t only our physical bodie, but also, at least in part, our brains. and our brains, of course, are what control our behavior, and so, although it surprises some people, our genes also play a role in the way we think about things, the way we feel about things, and the things that we do. so we have 100,000 genes, and all of us have to have two copies of each gene, one from each parent. each time they're being transmitted from parent to offspring, the genes have to be copied. and the copying system isn't perfect, so little mistakes are made, or changes, and most of them are irrelevant. but over time, we have in the population for any given gene, variance. in fact, my dna, and your dna, and somebody else's dna is 99.9% the same. but there's about one base out of 1000 that's different. so michael jackson's dna might read "a," and michael jordan's dna might read "g," and michelangelo's dna might read "c," and so on and so forth. and surprisingly those very few differences, that one out of 1000, is enough to make all the differences in t

and what fannie lou hamer mend by louisville, mississippi make $2 a day. or ellen baker who was telling people democracy was about more than a hamburger or sit in movement. the connected idea into democracy. after the 2008 and with the election of barack obama. i want to talk about democracy in the age of the new jim crow. how can we get to a deeper notion of small radical democracy that can actually create a people's movement like we had in the 1960s and 70s. needs a fundamental transformation. i am interested in this notion of grappling with a notion of democracy. not a democracy the united states projects but a democracy black people have dragged this country into expanding with their blood. >> i would argue the black freedom movement has been the grandest example of democratic struggle. by democratic struggle i mean addicted to you every day. if you really a term the dignity of every day people they are not going to choose poverty or dilapidated housing or were levels of unemployment or underand one in better depressionlike for 45 years. at that very d

. >> who was fannie lou hamer? >> she basically protested the system enormously.she was a hero for many african-american women because of the many ways that she had protested the system. she was being early in her politics career, but she is one of the people in 1968 went to the floor of the democratic convention. theoretically, there were supposed to be a division between two wings of the democratic party. one of the things i have been working on for the past couple of years and i'm really excited about them as a group of people who are building a statute 200 in her hometown. i have been on the advisory committee helping to raise a little bit of money. but we will be unveiling on october 5. >> in your book, "surviving and thriving: 365 facts in black econimics history", first of all, how did you organize that but? >> there is the fact that they basically. what is said to teachers and others is that you can give people a little bit of information. i didn't really study economic history and they did not teach it in undergrad at mit where i got my doctorate. but the