hamlin university. >> that's in st. paul. >> they gave me seed money. from 37, 38 organizations and individuals i received money over the years. the schuman center for media and democracy which was the schuman foundation then. >> bill moyer's running that? >> he's the president, right. gave me a large sum in the middle that helped. minnesota humanities commission, minnesota historical society, the south dakota humanities commission, afl-cio, i got it from all kinds of places, andreas foundation and dwayne andreas family and his brother, just from all over the place. it ended up being about $600,000 and about $200,000 i would say in kind. >> i assume there was never a time when this wasn't going to be a positive look at hubert humphries. >> well, i started off oth otherwise. i wanted to otherwise, but i couldn't find anybody that didn't like him. they were all in love with him. the closer they got to him, the more they liked him. it's hard to do a story about someone who was a good person, it's much easier if there are affairs and murders and all kinds o