to, you know, the israelis complain they have no partners, no reasonable people to deal with, and hammasis a major problem, but the palestinians have, you know, there are reasonable people in the west bank and intellectuals are an example, but there are also poll tightses that -- politicians that would be willing to go along with this plan, and i'm also quite confident from polling data that if such a plan was put to a referendum in israel and in the palestine occupied territories, that even in gaza, you would find a majority reluctantly grinding their teeth perhaps vote for this, so that -- i think that's, that gives it hope. unfortunately, the leadership on both sides are, you know, they think there is no hope, and others think there's something to be gained by the status quo. >> you return to jerusalem to, i don't know if it was to find inspiration for the book, but you write about returning in recent years. how was your experience of jerusalem? your experience of jerusalem as a boy was someone who could exist or live or visit the two worlds. were they further apart or closer together