a han chinese couple come to purchase tea.t is of high quality, so they buy a whole box. ( gro(pspeaking chineseh)nese ) translator: i used to be a laborer, but i steeled myself to make the move and become a trader. at first i sold fur and wool-- very traditional for a muslim trader. now, though, i buy spice from the west. sometimes i go to tibet to buy my spices. the furs i get from as far away as russia. narrator: ma lives with his fami in a muslim residential district. there are many of these districts in lanzhou. he has de well for himself and has built a beautiful two-story concrete house that is very unlike traditional muslim dwellings. ( conversing casually ) narrator: he lives with his wife and three daughters. his son lives elsewhere. four is a large number of children for a chinese family. gladney: now, these minority groups in china receive certain kinds of special privileges, preferential treatments. for example they're allowed to have more than one child, and in the rural areas, many of them have two to three, fou

the bad news is that the ethnic han chinese core is limited to central china and coastal china. but within china's borders you have inner mongolians in the north, you have uighur turk i can muslims in the west and tibetans in the southwest. all those minority areas is where all the water resources for china are. it's where 80% of the coal resources are. it's where a lot of the iron other and other strategic minerals and metals are. it's in the upland plateau regions ringing china. therefore, if you're a chinese leader and a westerner lectures you about opening up and liberalizing your society you get nervous. because you think if i do that there's going to be sustained systemic ethnic unrest in all of the peripherys of my country. >> rose: take germany. look at the history of germany and its future. >> germany has a natural boarder in the north with the baltic sea natural boarder in the south with the alps and further afield the carpathians a little bit. east and west plains, no natural border with france, none with poland. so germany has been different configurations on the map

hans s -- answers to the questions you ask. they inaccurately responded to so much what the committee needed to know. we know the chinesee know that's going on. then you have a company that is clearly under the protection of the chinese government, has relations to the chinese government that they could not sever, have not been able to show us how they've done that. now they want to get into the infrastructure, back bone infrastructure of the united states. it is really very, very concerning. so we've had information from former and current huawei employees. classified information, australians and british that pass aide long information that they have swheen it comes to huawei activities is a very clear indication that i have no problem of saying you i would not use huawei equipment, find other vendors. if you care about your consumers data and the national security of the united states you need to look elsewhere. >> chairman rogers, you and i had an opportunity to sit face to face some months ago discussing the larger chinese espionage, cyber espionage threat which we both know is a significant one. when it comes to th