han su kim is the owner of the de soto cab company in san francisco and people have said the san francisco industry is effectively on the verge of collapse because of companies like uber, is that true? >> let me make it very clear that's actually not true. what is going to happen is companies like mine and others will move away from a regulated business model to a deregulated one. unier is not playing by the same rules of taxi cab companies. while we're highly regulated in terms of the vehicles and drivers and everything about how we operate, uber services don't have to follow those same rules. >> which are you specifically referring to in this case? >> so right now taxi cabs have to have commercial insurance. they need licensed drivers, the type of vehicles have to be inspected. the type of model of vehicles are regulated, and so if i, myself, as a tax company were able to determine that i can charge whatever i like, put out as many cars as i want, decide who gets to drive the car what, commercial insurance i will have or not have, of course i'll be far more profitable, so the problem wit