liverpool, in brixton it was about you know, stop, stop and search by the police and so on, in handsworth, i think it was young black youth who were who were rioting about unemployment and whatever else. but you've got the sense, whether you agree with them or not, you've got the sense that there was a genuine kind of grievance there and that they were reacting to that. i think that this particular riot, very similar to the riot that you mentioned in in 2011 or the riots in 2011, because they spread around the country , spread around the country, ostensibly, if you remember, that was about mark duggan being shot by the police, and he ended up about looting a new pair of trainers, and exactly the gangster from from tottenham and it spread. and it was clear that thousands of people joined these riots who had no opinion on the mark duggan affair at all, but did it entirely gratuitously . did it entirely gratuitously. and that's that's my concern that it seems to happen these days, because people seem to be enjoying it and there's no real political grievance there. and i think that was the ca

the shows were created by gerry anderson, and at grosvenor road studios in handsworth, his sonjamie hasthe building. yes, milady. i was trying to think about the cliche butlers in typical black and white english comedy films. the profile is very — extremely important, and to look at, he looks a little bit like a parrot. just to know that part of that iconic show in such an important part was created here, really, its spirit and its origin is in birmingham. it's kind of unusual, but a really lovely piece of the puzzle. the concert celebrating the music of gerry anderson's shows will take place at birmingham symphony hall in the city. that helped to shape the sound and look of these treasured programmes. ben sidwell, bbc news. did you enjoy that? i did, actually. a rescue home for paralysed dogs says it's having to turn away pets in need, because the cost of living crisis has affected donations. flori's friends rescue in kent has taken in dogs with major injuries from across the uk and the world. the charity has now set up an urgent fundraiser, as claudia sermbezis reports. meet winnie, a