democratic strategist, only when i think of you, hank sheinkopf is here, great to have you both here.'s start, hank. what is with wisconsin? it's a race that looks to be far too close to call. people have got some ideas. but hank, what is going to make the difference next tuesday and where do you think trump will finish? >> wisconsin is among the many states where donald trump has done well, large numbers of blue collar, white working class men, lots of catholics and donald trump should do well there. why? regardless of what scott walker wants. it's not the ideas that are attracting trump, it's the emotional content that people are feeling. lou: do you agree, van? >> yeah, it's a state ted cruz has got to win. i know of no other state other than nebraska where cruz could do better. but this is built for trump. i would say one edge that cruz has got, and said this before is on the data analytics and the get out the vote technology, one weakness of trumps. if he can win and one of the polls has him up by two right now. he can win about 52, 53% and he'll be well on his way to the 1237 he

and political consultant hank sheinkopf. did mr. bloomberg exit too early? >> i don't think so, bill. the work we did that he cited suggested that almost certainly his entry into the race, and his potential to get five states, maybe about 75 electoral votes against donald trump and hillary clinton would potentially have deadlocked the college, throwing it into the house, and conceivably electing mr. trump or mr. cruz, as the mayor suggested in his statement. >> but if clinton has trouble, hank, getting to the magic number that she needs, and sanders for some reason has a way, a path to this nomination, would bloomberg have looked back and say, "oh, i wish i had done that"? >> mike bloomberg, very smart, very sharp, and likes to win, made the right decision for himself based upon the findings very public. go back a second to sanders, though. the worst thing that could happen to hillary clinton is for bernie sanders to keep banging her around as he's been doing on elitist kinds of issues, talking about the speeches to wall street. because this whole election,

political analyst hank sheinkopf is here with his take on all this. the debate was a new low, i think. >> new low for us in america but not a new low for the world. i mean, we -- you know, people take it for granted that this is how democracy is practiced. >> lincoln/douglas. >> lincoln was disgusting. i mean, they treated him like he was an animal. he was castigated, libeled in newspapers across the country on a daily basis. this is not new. what it is -- it's on television, it's in front of us. that's very different. >> that's the difference. >> that's the difference. >> yeah. what did you think when you heard all that? gutter. >> it's -- america is not benefiting, but this is, you know, this is kind of like close combat. it's everything people watch on television. it's wrestling, it's mud wrestling, it's a full contact sport. >> okay, let's get into the mud. know? they've known all the stuff about donald trump since june when he announced. it's just now coming up because now the republican establishment is freaked out that he might actually get the

we bring in the political pundits, evan sigfreid and hank sheinkopf. effort. this is your side, have you seen anything like that? >> no, we are strategic in the race, the race is to 1237 delegates. marco rubio and john kasich both know if either want to be the nominee of the republicans, they need to stop donald trump in both ohio and florida. if donald trump wins both, he's well on his way to being the nominee, that would be bad for the party. >> rubio looks like a fool and the thing is a mess. donald trump will do very well in florida regardless of what marco rubio does. but the idea that somehow can you create a new republican party based on the political manipulation makes everybody look like an imbes i'll. liz: he just on his twitter feed put out a new ad that says, look at this, it's on the screen -- the voters are unhappy, very anti-kasich, absentee governor, but john kasich has approval rating within ohio of 70%, and from republican voters specifically, 84% approve. i don't know if it sticks, but maybe the fact he's going after kasich means he's