and so as you talk about the ideas and suggestions, i want to and i think senator joe hanna said it clearly, it is on you and i can only look at what has been done in your comments today so i want to take a couple of steps. if you want to quickly comment on the convention that is great. in and i'm not going to read the agenda because you know was there and the things you covered, but it just seems that that should have been for front. maybe it was in your agenda on your website does not show that. it seems such an important issue. >> if i might, to that point, senator, hour -- the reason why raa was created and every year for the last 34 years has been to promote the safety within the industry, the safety directors of our member airlines need for the entire length of that conference. that is a meeting at which everything is sharon it again to protect these issues with the faa, with members of the ntsb that are there and is not a public meeting so that they can share those experiences. and so you're exactly correct, that was not on the public website. they meet for 10 hours a day in a window