nicole: and hannah cleaver is still with me.saw a lot of very emotional responses to the queen's passing. how come all these people have such a strong connection with the monarch, who is a person who lives in a sort of ivory tower, far removed from everyday life? >> maybe not only ivory towers but several different palaces and. castles. it is a question that has been fascinating to me for some long. people are genuinely distressed by the death of a woman they could not have possibly ever known and yet they feel that they did. that was part of the art that queen elizabeth practiced all the way through her reign, to kind of give people enough of an opening to make them feel like they knew her, like they had a reason to emotionally engage with her, and actually not show them very much, if anything, of herself. they were then able to almost project onto her anything they wanted. people talked about how funny she is, about how dutiful she was, how she meant so much to them, and if you dig deeper, they often don't really have a reason