the authors deny their book had anything to do with hannah williams' death.y tuckman they don't advocate abusing kids but endorse spanking, the word they use, and they're not talking about a quick swat on the bottom. gary asked how they would punish a 7-year-old boy who slugs his sister. >> i would take him somewhere like into his bedroom and i would tell him i'm going to give him 15 licks. >> with what? >> probably a belt, a kid that big, a boy. i'd probably use a belt. it would be handy. i might use a wooden spoon or a piece of like plumbing supply line quarter inch in diameter, flexible enough to roll up. >> last week michael pearl agreed to come on the program to talk about the death of hannah williams and told us he can't be responsible for parents who misinterpret his book's teachings which he says are based on the bible. he also said science is on his side. >> research has been shown that spanking creates children that are more, higher educationally, they're less aggressive, that they are more entrepreneurial, that they in every way make better citizen

the authors deny their book had anything to do with hannah williams' death. don't advocate abusing kids but endorse spanking, the word they use, and they're not talking about a quick swat on the bottom. gary asked how they would punish a 7-year-old boy who slugs his sister. >> i would take him somewhere like into his bedroom and i would tell him i'm going to give him 15 licks. >> with what? >> probably a belt, a kid that big, a boy. i'd probably use a belt. it would be handy. i might use a wooden spoon or a piece of like plumbing supply line quarter inch in diameter, flexible enough to roll up. >> last week michael pearl agreed to come on the program to talk about the death of hannah williams and told us he can't be responsible for parents who misinterpret his book's teachings which he says are based on the bible. he also said science is on his side. >> research has been shown that spanking creates children that are more, higher educationally, they're less aggressive, that they are more entrepreneurial, that they in every way make better citizens when young c

this is a 7-year-old lydia shotz beaten to death by her parents and hannah williams left outside diedok how to train up a child found at the scenes. the authors say they can't be held responsible for the death. those stories and the ridiculous at the top of the hour. >> looking forward to it, as always, sir. >>> all right. what does the average american family spend $2,000 on a year? we're going to tell you next. no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses anywhere. save time and get back to what you love. the latest innovation. only for ink customers. learn more at chase.com/ink helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. you had me at "probiotic." or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just