out of the lake, put me in the truck, beat me up a little or a lot, and went to the now famous hanoi hilton prison which was a five-minute drive away. it is a very long story about how they found out who my father was and decided to give me .reatment emptied of wonderful americans thought they moved me into die -- and two wonderful americans thought they moved me into die. they took care of me. when i got better, they put me in solitary confinement. i don't hold a grudge against the north vietnamese. i don't like them. there are some i would never want to see again. i was the same time, part of the conflict. ok? i thought they were some of the meanest people i have ever met in my life and i never want to see again. but there were several that were good people and that were kind to me, so that is why it was much easier for me to support, along with president clinton and others, the normalization of relations with our countries to feel -- heal the wounds of war. >> when you got that, much did you and your dad talk about it? sen. mccain: a lot. it was very hard on my dad, particularly since i

out -- long story short, they put me on a truck, beat me up a lot, and i went to the now famous hanoi hilton prison, a five minute drive away. abouta very long story how they found out who my father was and they decided to give me treatment, and two wonderful -- they moved me into, they thought they had moved me and to die, and the nurse me back to health. after they saw me in better health, they put me into solitary confinement. look, i don't hold a grudge against the north vietnamese. i don't like them, there are some i would never want to see again, but i was part of the conflict. they were some of the meanest people i had ever met in my life and i never want to see them again, but there were several that were good people. they were kind to me. that is why it was much easier for me to support, along with president clinton and others, the normalization of relations with our two countries, the heal the wounds of four. -- of war. host: when you got back, how much did you and your father talk about it? -- senator mccain: a lot. it was hard for my father. every time someone came through hawaii

they pulled me out of the lake, beat me up a little or a lot, and then i went to the now famous hanoi hilton prison, just a short drive away. abouta very long story how they found out who my father was and decided to give me wonderful and two americans thought they had moved me in to die, took care of me and nursed me back to health. after they saw me in better health, they put me into solitary confinement. look, i don't hold a grudge against the north vietnamese. i don't like them. there are some i would never want to see again. but at the same time, i was a part of a conflict. ime of the meanest people have ever met in my life, and i know i will never see them again. but there were several that were good people and that were kind to me. that is why it was much easier support president clinton and others in the normalization of our two countries to heal the wounds of war. brian: when you got that, how much did you and your dad talk about it? sen. mccain: a lot. it was very hard on my dad, particularly since i knew what was happening to me and he didn't. everybody that would come through haw

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beat me up a little, or a lot, and then went to the now famous hanoi hilton prison, which was just a short drive away. and then it's a very long story about how they found out who my father was and they decided to give me treatment and two wonderful americans. they moved me into, finally, who thought they would move me in to die, and they took care of me and nursed me back to health. and after they saw me in better health, they put me into solitary confinement. look, i don't hold a grudge against the north vietnamese. don't like them. there are some i would never want to see again. but at the same time i was part of a conflict. i thought they were some of the meanest people i ever met in my life. i never want to see again. but there were some that were good people. and that were kind to me. that's why it was much easier for me to support along with president clinton and others the normalization of relations with our two countries. brian: when you got back from war, how much did you and your dad talk about it? senator mccain: a lot. it was very hard on my dad particularly since i knew

but, you know, the infamous hanoi hilton. as you know and have heard time and again, and john bears the scars of those brutal beatings and damage done to him, you also after about eight months, you also know about the offer of release. i have had the opportunity as the vice president to sit on the stage with the president and confer a number of medals of honor. i am sure it has occurred, but i cannot think of anyone -- given i am aware of, i am sure it has occurred, but given the opportunity, after knowing what it meant to stay in that prison, knowing what would happen, given the opportunity to leave, no matter what the code was, imagine. i want you to think about it. imagine in real terms. again, not having to wonder what he would face by refusing to leave. knowing the excruciating pain and isolation. he stayed. he stayed. that man spent almost five more years in that hellhole of captivity. inhumane conditions. 1,967 days. 1,967 days. you have all had pain, suffering. we have all had it in our lives. you know sometimes it is

you know the infamous hanoi hilton. as you know and you've heard time and again and john knows and still bears the scars of the brutal beatings and the and the damage done to him. after about eight months, you also know about the offer of release. i have had the opportunity as vice president to sit on the stage of the president and confer a number of medals of honor. occurred, but i cannot think of anyone that i'm aware of, i'm sure it's occurred, who, given the opportunity after knowing not having to guess, knowing what it meant to stay in that prison. not having to be threatened and wonder what was coming, knowing what would happen. leave,he opportunity to no matter what the code was, imagine. i want you to think about it. imagine it in real terms. again, not having to wonder what he would face by refusing to leave. painng the excruciating and isolation. and he stayed. man has spent almost five more years in that hellhole of captivity inhumane conditions. days -- 1967 days. you have all had pain, you have all had suff

and when john mccain was in the hanoi hilton, donald trump as he explained to me was focused oen makingake more money. this is a completely different set of values. he also talked about how mccain was last in his class at annapolis. well, mccain was in a real academy and trump was at a fake academy playing soldier. there's a difference between mccain who demonstrated physical courage, political courage to stand up there and a president who wants to stand up there and attack a guy with cancer, it's shocking. >> should the president go after a member of his own party like this? i get he was annoyed about the vote on health care, but he's still in his own party and he still could use as much support he can get in the senate. >> look, it's understandable donald trump's dispointed in john mccain. he didn't like the big thumbs down, that he made some occasional political barb. but the very fact is he had said john mccain's not a war hero, that i don't like people captured, trying to destroy mccain's heroism and john mccain's a real thel dor roosevelt figure in our country, someone about duty,

this interview is, don't -- don't get into a taunting war with a guy who spent five years in the hanoi hilton is facing a mortal illness because he's not scared of you. >> no. >> he's not worried about you, okay? and i think this was senator mccain's way of saying, you know what, i'm done with you. >> and, look, david mentioned that john mccain was a prisoner of war for 5 1/2 years in vietnam during the vietnam war. when he came back, part of what he did before he actually ended up leaving the navy was he went to the naval war college to study exactly why and how america got into the vietnam war and how they went so wrong. so what he was talking about there i think was for a larger project on vietnam, but it was after a lot of scholarly intake that he has done, which i think the reason i'm bringing this up is because it's just another kind of data point on how different an experience john mccain has had and why his world view is the way it is, and there is no question that he chose that example as a dig to donald trump. >> don't forget, the president during the campaign said john mccain was n

his father was a commander in chief pacific when john mccain was in the hanoi hilton being tortured.out his father and his many trips to vietnam walking to the end of the runway at the air base and standing there in the dusk staring north where he knew his son was being held captive. and you're right, john mccain could have been released early but chose not to. we should pay attention these days to john mccain. >> we should. and obviously john mccain could give as good as he got. a tough guy. nobody is saying right now he's a saint. just saying his decisions are in marked contrast to donald trump, and always has been. and we do wonder on the hill, you've got by our account, you have ben sass and bob corker, and john mccain, susan collins, and lisa murkowski, who at times are all showing independence toward the extremes and the excesses of donald trump. but you do wonder where so many other leaders are. >> and why they're hiding. >> well, we -- we know what they say in private. the senators you mentioned are the ones who come out publicly, but i think bob corker when he spoke out gave

hilton,to the hanoi just a short drive away. it is a very long story. father was,where my and they decided to give me treatment, and they moved me to die. they nursed me back to health. after they saw me in better health, they put me into solitary confinement. against hold a grudge the north vietnamese. there is some i would never want to see again, but at the same time i was part of a conflict, thought they were some of the meanest people i ever met in my life and i never want to see again, but there are several that were good people, and that were kind to me. that is why it was much easier along withupport, president clinton and others, the normalization of relations with our two countries to heal the wounds of war. brian: how much did you and your dad talk about it? sen. mccain: a lot. a lot. my dad,ery hard on particularly since i knew what was happening and he did not. so everybody that would come wouldh in his command want to talk about me, and they did the right thing. they said "please, do not talk about admiral mccain's son, because that takes