granted himself exemptions. we will see if he ends up climbing down from this rhetorical position as well. >> yeah. and jonathan lamire, let's talk about the president's personality as it relates to everything hans was just laying out because that seems to be at the center of this. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are perfectly capable of pursuing these dual paths. like i said, we have seen other presidents negotiate it successfully, try to put points on the board, basically, while still fighting back against inquiries from congress. this president does not -- and i was thinking this this morning, as this was unfolding. this president does not seem to have the capacity to do that as a human being. i mean, you have covered him for quite some time. what about today surprised you and what didn't? >> first of all, happy infrastructure week. >> i think this is really the infrastructure week after what happened. i mean, like do we have another one that really competes? >> i think infrastructure week is the friends you meet along the way, casey. what we have from this president today was not surprising in most ways. it was perhaps a little more dramatic than some of his other moments. but we know he has