>> if anybody knows anything about walls it is probably hans peter spitsner. >> you would have approachedheckpoint charlie. >> first time he was at checkpoint charlie was when help and daughter peggy would be the last people to escape across the berlin wall before it fell. >> a great dangerous for us. >> a tourist attraction now. east german regime in 1961, the wall was a death zone almost three decade. while around, 5,000 people escaped across, through, and, over, or under it. at least 139 died trying. some death estimates run to over 1,000. hans peter was desperate. >> this is the car, i crossed the border. >> owned by american gi, now a family front. with his wife ingrid in the west allowed out for an aging aunt's birthday. with peggy 7 years old at the time, hans peter asked dozens of gis with access to east germany to smuggle them out. only eric yah agreed to hide them in his trun tick. >> i said you are a member of my family. >> they have strong views about walls not just the berlin example now a living history security barrier the israelis have built between them and the palestinia