. >> hans von spakovsky -- did i do that right? >> that was close, but not quite. >> i actually practiced that a couple of times last night. but you'll correct me when your time comes. >> i have a tendency to do that. >> hans has a wide range of expertise in civil justice, immigration, election and related issues including campaign finance reform. voter fraud. enforcement of federal voting rights laws. election administrating. the standards and on and on. he served on the virginia committee of the u.s. commission on civil rights. he's been published in countless national newspapers, he's been on countless radio and television shows. he's testified before state legislatures and congressional committees and made a multitude of presentations on this issue across the country. so for those of us who have been in this business a while, we all know of hans. candace wheeler. how are you? >> i'm fine, thank you. >> good. candace is -- joined the national military family association government relations staff as the deputy director in june o

and hans von spakovsky, and that wasn't easy but i think i got it right. of the heritage foundation. we will begin with a six minute opening, obviously in traditional terms, those speaking in favor of the compact with the first. gentlemen can have six minutes. why change the existing system? and how will it impact in practical terms the choice of president and vice president. >> thank you mr. moderator. first of all, as the moderator mitcham my name is tom golisano, the recently lives most of my life in upstate newark and now a florida resident. i was one of these people that watched the electoral process -- [inaudible] >> i'm sorry? [inaudible] >> sure. i was one of the people that observed the election process every year. didn't quite understand blue states, red states, lie over, battleground, swing, all of those terms that can be used. and also the general knowledge that everything seemed to be focused on just a few number of states. when i woke up wednesday more, what i wanted to know is who became president of the united states and get my vote count.

hans von spakovsky -- >> that was close but not quite. [laughter] >> i actually practice that a couple times last night but it kept coming at the same way but you will correct me when your time comes. >> i have a tendency to do that. >> hans has a wide range of expertise and experience in civil rights, justice, immigration, including campaign finance reform, vodafone come enforcement of federal voting rights laws, election administration, living standards and on and on and on. he served on the virginia committee of the u.s. commission on civil rights. he's been published in countless national newspapers. he's been on countless radio and television shows or just testify before state legislators and congressional committees and made a multitude of presentations on this issue across the country. so for those of us have been in this business a while we all know of hans. candace wheeler. candace, how are you? >> i'm fine, thank you. >> good. candace joined the national military family association government relations staff as the deputy direct