i'm here with hans von von spakovsky, heritage foundation, one of the great experts on voting in this, their bill does not talk about the registration and voting of citizens, it talks about individuals which opens it wide to illegal aliens as do these lists. and as people vote under this legislation, as i understand it, for instance, an election judge in a precinct really is not free to challenge somebody voting because they can be criminally charged. moreover as i understand it, you don't have to vote in your own precinct. you can vote in another precinct if you choose to do that. they want to register 16 and 17-year-olds who would actually be able to vote given the fact that there's no serious ability to challenge their votes or to prevent them from voting. is that correct? >> yeah, unfortunately, that is correct, and those are all provisions in this bill that would make it, frankly, very easy for people who aren't actually eligible to vote to actually vote and get away with it. mark: felons whoment have been even finished their terms, they would have the right to vote, mail-in voti

mark, if you went into a polling place and claimed you were hans von spakovsky they cannot ask you foru signed a form saying oh, yeah, i'm hans von spakovsky and they have to let you vote. combine this with the fact that they require states to put in same-day voter registration, states have to allow people to walk into a polling place on election day, register and immediately vote. since they can't ask you for an id again, anybody could walk into any polling place anywhere in the country using a fake name and a fake address and they have to be allowed to register and they can vote and election officials cannot prevent that and then you can walk out of the polling place and go do it again elsewhere but that is what the commendation of that brings in. they also want to destroy any and all security with absentee ballots. remember, absentee ballots are the most vulnerable ballot to being stolen or altered or changed. they've got a whole series of things and first of all, every state around the nation has to stand absentee ballot request form to every registered voter. of a registered voter

elizabeth: with me now is heritage foundation senior legal fellow hans von spakovsky.ou back on. hunter biden out with a new book. claims he wouldn't do it again, getting paid a lot of money sitting on the board of the ukrainian gas company even though he had no experience because he claims partisan politics, really? he has yet to divest the 10% stake in a chinese equity fund like he said he would. do you believe him here? >> what is so shocking about that, he still doesn't admit or acknowledge the complete conflict of interest and ethical problems raised by the fact that he got a job paying him millions of dollars from this ukrainian energy company and he basically admitting only reason he got it because his father was the vice president, supervising our country's diplomatic and trade relationship with the ukraine. so he doesn't see a problem with that and the fact that, it could, it could affect the wealth of the biden family. elizabeth: he is also claiming, hunter biden is claiming in his new book that he is quote, not like eric trump or donald trump, jr., that hunt