we also know the economic crisis that is flooding harcourt's with new money related cases for closures, evictions, unemployment, medicare, child support, domestic violence, that money for legal services is being rolled back to 2000 levels. from what i can tell, this administration is not leading in full flight about increasing it or keeping it at 2000 levels. given this is our situation. i would be interested in hearing your ideas about closing the gap in terms of using all of these unemployed law students that are running around. i would be interested in hearing your thoughts about closing the justice debt. it is great to see you. >> i do propose a number of things. part of it is better enforcement of the programs that are out there that are supposedly helping people stay in their homes. what i see -- the problem i see about inequality that has been built into the lending system. they have been built into it and some has been institutionalized because of years of discrimination against women, people of color. the way communities have developed over the past few years has been rational