commissioner hardeman? >> thank you for all of your remarks. all to the point. the one thing that -- oh, i don't know whether it was last year some time on the turnouts there was a -- something to do with the manufacturer and what the components are of the turnouts. but i certainly want to vote to thwart our attempts to discourage more than a discovery. theres a big pot of gold for somebody waiting to invent a turnout that protects and keeps you cool. though are the two biggest problems. and the way they're manufactured now, like i said when i first became a commissioner because i'm a hot-blooded person and it's 50° out and i put that turnout on and with the wrap-around because the general public doesn't know, but you get a wrap around the sleeve and you are taped with tape. it's very thick. very tight. because they don't want any flames to get up there. actually, i thought immediately i could take this to my cleaners and have her cut that off. i thought, oooh, i'd probably get in trouble. but that's part o

commissioner hardeman? >> commissioner hardeman: very good presentation. the more we understand, the easier it is for you to convince us of things, and this is a great report. thank you. the hose tenders -- so a retired chief is always worried about the west side of the city, which is unprotected. how many of these would you anticipate having over the next couple of years because this sounds very good, looking at this? >> so we've asked for a number of them in this year's budget. right now, what is in our budget is we are hoping to get four. we are hoping to get approved through the budget committee, but it's a place to start. but we'd definitely like to have more than that. >> commissioner hardeman: thank you. that's a good number. and then, just to go right to the last part of your presentation, captain serrano and lieutenant wong, i think it was late last year another commissioner was on her way, and something came up, and they couldn't make it, so they called me, and can you go over there? oh, so i went over there. so i was very impressed. i agree with

commissioner hardeman. we're going to ask the public to vacant this room so we >> clerk: okay. we're back in open session at 11:44. >> president nakajo: we're back in open session at this particular point. >> clerk: hold on. your microphone's not on. okay. >> president nakajo: madam secretary, we're back in open session. i'd like to have a motion whether to disclose any or all discussions held in close session. >> commissioner hardeman: i move, mr. president, that we not discuss any items discussed in closed session. >> commissioner cleaveland: i second. >> president nakajo: okay. before that, i need to ask about public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. i've got a motion by commissioner hardeman, seconded by commissioner cleaveland. all in favor? opposed? okay. at this point, we'll move to adjournment. >> commissioner covington: so moved. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioner cleaveland and vice president covington. we are adjourned. [gavel]

hardeman has a comment. >> yes, jamie, i'd just like you to send my regards to mike nernie. he was the maritime director and he is still the assistant. he is a very wonderful guy who works with you. i took a cruise out of pier 27 out of jimmy herman terminal. i've had a couple other cruises since the terminal opened but there were other ships in there so i had to go out of 35. my first experience was at the end of march on a cruise and it's remarkable. being named after jimmy herman, who i served on the port commission with, i don't know if any of you every saw jimmy herman in action. he was president of the union for many years and many years as a port commissioner, every meeting he would get up for 10 or 15 minutes, stand up, go back and fourth and give a speech to the audience that the port commission, the most wonderful words came out of his mouth but you weren't sure what he said but he sounded really good. >> he didn't have that opportunity but yes. >> having a cruise ship named after him is his first dealings as a maritime person were as working on a cruise ship. >> r

it functions similar to a lease, a port lease, commissioner hardeman is very familiar with these port leases. good to see you. i wanted to point out that there are several different m.o.u. his you have the historic firehouse, you have a marginal wharf area that i was talking to earlier, that was a public area. you have what they call submerged land that is essentially the water parcel where the new facility will be built, and then you have two access points, vehicle access from the embarcadero, one for the engine that can go into the bay in the historic firehouse 35 , and then a new access point onto the ramp that i described that will take you down to the new facility. in total, there's about 53,000 square feet of land or land and water. i have a couple of slides where i wanted to highlight the main key terms of the m.o.u. the term is 50 years. that term of the agreement corresponds with the design life of the new facility, it is a fifty-year design life, and so that is where we pegged to the terms of the agreement. it allows for two things. it allows for the construction of the proj