you couldn't please them. >> it could have been the apollo in harl em. know, i used to go there all the time. there was one night -- yeah, pretty good people. you know, tap dancing, singing, dancing. but once in a while -- there was this large girl. she was really large and she was singing ♪ kiss me once and kiss me twice kiss me once again it's been a long long time ♪ she wasn't bad. and then there was -- you know. and there were just kind of tolerant. and she was singing. then this big guy with a kind of lamb -- light color, beautiful vest and he comes in at the bottom of the stage. he looks up at the apollo. and in those days when you didn't like a contestant, you said "boo." there was -- >> sandman came out. >> yeah, yeah and they would shoot them. bang and take her off. >> right. and the audience was wishy washy. they didn't want to hurt her feelings. ♪ kiss me once, kiss me twice she was going on and on. this guy comes out. he looks like fats wahler. he was a beautiful guy. he comes out and he says "we've got to shoot her." i'll never forget. i sai