her name is harlina hutchins. she was great at her job. had a husband and young child and there's a scholarship fund in her name that everybody should donate to. she is being completely forgotten in the story and i hate that that's happening. but it is happening in part because he's doing these interviews where he's saying these wild things, making headlines about himself and ultimately playing the victim. you know, tammy, i got to believe that all of this is being watched by helena hutchins family and i would not at all be surprised if a massive lawsuit on him comes his way very soon. what do you think? well, look, there there are criminal issues which we don't know where those will go. again, he certainly denies being responsible at all. but keep in mind also he was a little slow to get off. so i mean, never, ever hold accountable. but when you only conservatives well, that's it. but when you're when you're thinking about the level of responsibility she was trying to fend off, you know, the assertion that he was responsible if ammunition