i like what harmeet dillon says about getting the rnc out of dc. we need some fresh thinking. dillon's hardball approach or tactics to get their vote. >> i've been incredibly supportive, don't think some of the creditors of of her is fair, because she has tried her best. at the end of the day but this isn't school, you don't get a gold star for effort, you don't get to stay in your job forever. >> the magic number is 85, that is half the number of committee members gathering here. is a secret ballot so anyone's guess what will happen. lauren: they could say one thing and do another. to me this seems like proxy for 2,024. ron desantis versus donald drum, new blood versus old blood. >> i think you are right. in the past donald trump has supported mcdaniel, she has the majority of people who publicly endorsed her, she has signatures from 100 of them at a secret ballot, i don't know. i think ron desantis conceptually is right, we need fresh thinking. if we are satisfied with the results of the election, that won't be good enough. you need to come up with a winning formula. lauren:

. >> joining me now is harmeet dhillon, founder of the dillon law group and rnc chair candidate harmeetry with alec baldwin going back to 1996. is his negligence here criminal in nature? welll , i think that what you se here is a difference between the civil standarddifferen and e criminal standard. and so he's making a lot oflot f defenses that might fly in a civil court. what's the normal procedurlye aa and standards on a film crew?at the n set and who is supposed to be doing what? but in a criminal case, i do think that under the standards of new mexico law, hee abso absolutely is within within those two charges. tand so that's a tough spot to be. it doesn't help that he appeares to have misrepresented his role in this with respect to pulling pullthe trigger. it was also a very low budgetucn production, a seven million dollar. production. twenty one days, verye fo aggressive for a period piece and there have been a lot of reports from the from the filmis set that it was understaffed. in fact, some of some of the cre walked off the set the prior day because of thatsome understaffing a

she defeated hard meet dillon -- march -- can harmeet dhillon despite the lack of an expected red wavear in the midterms. joining us right now with reaction is harmeet dhillon, chair of the national republican lawyers' association. thanks very much for being here this morning. wow, what a contentious battle. how are you feeling this morning? >> well, i'm still recovering from being on campaign rail for almost two months -- trail for almost two months now. but what i feel good about is that i've committed to moving forward together with the party. i've been in the rnc for six years and will be for at least the next two years. we have a lot of work to do to make sure we're in fighting shape for 2024. so it's up to the chair really how, what role she wants me to play, but we're certainly open to whatever's necessary, because the bigger picture here is that democrats are absolutely devastating our country, they're driving us into the ground, and we cannot afford for are republicans to not be united right now. i look forward to working together with her. maria: well, have you heard from her

back with me is the panel, charlie kirk, har might dillon raymond arroyo. harmeete have all the individuals we just named, biggs, crane, rosendale, goode all voted against kevin mccarthy. does this end up biting them on the back side given everything that's been conceded already? >> well, i think that is a risk for them. i mean, the reality is, when you go to congress, you're signing up for a process where the sausage is being made. that means compromise has to be had and if you want to be relevant to the voters who elected you to congress you have to be able to show up and make deals and that requires some good will. so i'm not sure what the end game is for those because the people they're nominating and voting for rather are not running and they're not realistic alternatives. so if this was a horse race between two capped dates and this was a debate over that, i could see that. but if you're simply obstructing, i think you're burning a lot of good will. so at some point, gaetz called mccarthy speaker designate an hour ago so i think that's a hint where he's going

. >> harmeet dhillon represented donald trump into the investigation of the january 6th capitol riot and fights with stormy daniels. dillony voting and points to losses in the 2018 midterms, 2020 election and disappointing 2022 midterm. >> i don't think a 5 or 4 vote majority in the house is the red wave we promised voters. >> ronna mcdaniel supporters maintain she has raised a record $1.5 billion over her tenure. mcdaniel says under her leadership the rnc made the last few elections better than they otherwise could have been. >> we don't pick the candidates. the voters do. we don't make the messaging, the campaigns do. but we are the turnout. we won in every battleground state. >> mcdaniel has also pulled the party from participating in the commission on presidential debates, a first since the commission was created in 1987. my pillow ceo mike lindell is also running. is he a fervent trump supporter and echoed many of the unproven theories of fraud in the 2020 election. with all three candidates tied to the former president trump is withholding an endorsement. in an interview with florida's recognize ron desantis many se