joining me now from more to talk about the weapons of mass distraction as war correspondent keith harmon snow keith thank you so much for being here this evening and now what is your general take on why there is so much misinformation and conflicting reports when it comes to libya. well it's basically a psychological operation this entire wing of the pentagon in the state department that's dedicated to psychological operations perception management is the goal and term the previous one was propaganda psychological operations to convince the american public we're in english speaking world in english news concerning world that something's going on that may or may not be actually happening and that's what we're seeing a lot of with respect with you but you don't think it's maybe and some heartburn the nature of the news business itself i mean we know the pictures tell the story we know the conflict seems to be on it right now so do you think that there are some you know sort of more accidental forces at play where journalists are going out there and trying to find the most exciting thing th

the operators can tell just by the hum of that machine that it's a harmonic noise emitted that it's out of balance and the machine needs to be cleaned. it will start vibrating and we have vibration analysis machines that will come over here and check the levels. so it's kind of an on-going thing that you have to stay on top of on a daily basis. >> handled properly, you take organic residuals, as we call them, that are leftovers of our society and turn them back into some energy.

so there is an attempt there to try to create harmonization. >> thank you. i yield back. >> thank you. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. >> i want to commend you on your monetary easing policy. i know not all of my colleagues agree. but the economy is a patient in critical condition but the traditional medicines are not available. you can lower short-term interest rates. the fact is that you have come up with a new and inventing of medicine at a time when the easy thing to do for you would have been to walk away from the patient and say, oh well, everything that can be done has been done at least by the fed. so you have shown courage. you have shown innovation. i hope this new experimental medicine of yours works. on to focus on stay barring. people invest in state funds. some politicians are talking about allow us to go bankrupt and these politicians do not even want the bondholders to lose money. they just hate the public employee unions so much that they have lost sight of the reason that we do not lets this go bankrupt, which is to e

so there is an attempt there to try to create harmonization. >> thank you. i yield back. >> thank you. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. >> i want to commend you on your monetary easing policy. i know not all of my colleagues agree. but the economy is a patient in critical condition but the traditional medicines are not available. you can lower short-term interest rates. the fact is that you have come up with a new and inventing of medicine at a time when the easy thing to do for you would have been to walk away from the patient and say, oh well, everything that can be done has been done at least by the fed. so you have shown courage. you have shown innovation. i hope this new experimental medicine of yours works. on to focus on stay barring. people invest in state funds. some politicians are talking about allow us to go bankrupt and these politicians do not even want the bondholders to lose money. they just hate the public employee unions so much that they have lost sight of the reason that we do not lets this go bankrupt, which is to e

officers found the victims lying in the driveway on harmon avenue last night. the men died at the hospital. a second dog was also shot. it survived. two men were seen running from the scene. >>> contra costa county officials dropped charges against a man accused of stealing drugs. norman wielsch was supposed to be the main witness in the case against a suspected madam. wielsch was charged with felony counts last month. the d.a.'s office says it's reviewing up to 40 cases that are tied to that officer. >>> save the rave. that is the rally cry from bay area fans of the pulse pounding all-night dance parties. they turned out in force for a demonstration at city hall in san francisco last night. they are reacting to the efforts of fiona ma to ban raves which are havens for drug activities. >> electronic dance music is the number one form of express for young people today and this generation. >> we didn't get there until later that evening and unfortunately, by the time i had got then he had already passed away. >> dan motta's son anthony died at a cow palace rave l

police say two men and a dog were shot to death while sitting on a porch at a home on harmon avenue in east oakland. it happened just after 8:00 last night. police say both men were shot multiple times and died at the scene. police do not have description of the shooters or get away car. anyone with information is asked to call oakland police. >>> time now 5:04. in a couple hours testimony in the barry bonds perjury trial will resume in san francisco. tara moriarty tells us the first witness goes back to the stand for cross-examination. good morning, tara. >> reporter: good morning. all he had to do was tell the truth and he couldn't do it. that's what the government's appointment on this case is saying about barry bonds. the federal drug agent in charge of the steroids case this morning he resumes the stand. others expected to appeared to bonds' childhood friend who had a fallout with him in his signed memorabilia business. mike murphy also appear at giants clubhouse manager who will testify as to the increase of bonds' size. and vice president indicted by a grand jury for money laund

the board of supervisors had harmonized the different programs between the board of supervisors public financing program and the mayor's public financing program. it gives us an entire package to work from. it gives us the context of the mayor's race. it is a bit complicated because we are working at three fiscal years for this program. it is looking at three fiscal years for the financing program. for the 10-11, 11-12, and 12-13. look at the longevity of the program. i really feel that we have to have full funding for the program in the air. -- in there. we will still be very short of what the mandate for ordnance established in the fund provides, which would be far short of that. it would be close to the breaking point of whether we are going to have a fully funded program for the campaign that will be happening in the next few months. i hope that we can move forward on the entire amount for the public financing program. i say that knowing where our budget is that. i think this is something that san franciscans will want and welcome based on a real concern about democracy in the leve

the operators can tell just by the hum of that machine that it's a harmonic noise emitted that it's out of balance and the machine needs to be cleaned. it will start vibrating and we have vibration analysis machines that will come over here and check the levels. so it's kind of an on-going thing that you have to stay on top of on a daily basis. >> handled properly, you take organic residuals, as we call them, that are leftovers of our society and turn them back into some energy. and we have another ability to take that sludge and get a nutrient value for crops there. we actually are running a kind of composting energy recovery system. >> well, this is a dirty job. we try to do it safely and we try to do it without imposing too much on the public. people want to flush their toilets and have things go away and not be bothersome again. we do a lot to try to accomplish that. i'd like to invite you to come back any time you want. once you got this in your blood, you are not going to be able to stay away. the raging waters are fun and when we do digester cleaning i really hope you can come ba

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this all happened at a home on harmon avenue near 62nd about 8 p.m. last night. police say the two men were standing on a porch when someone started firing. a second dog that was shot survived. witnesses say they saw two men running from the scene. >>> and security is tighter at berkeley high school this afternoon after three students were arrested for bringing guns to campus. and as anne makovec tells us, it's not the first time students have come to school armed. >> some people just want to be known and bring a gun and be cool. >> reporter: three berkeley high students are facing felony charges for bringing guns to school. two of them were in this portable bathroom when a gun went off yesterday shooting through the wall. >> i just heard one pop. >> reporter: the school went on lockdown and the students were identified soon after. they will be expelled for a year. a third student was also arrested after another student told school officials he also had a gun. >> both instances are very concerning. i mean, the potential, particularly with the first incident with

it rationalizes and harmonizes the zoning and deals with this orphan block. you have heard about this already. if anything, it will make development there more predictable, more fair, and it really brings the standards that we have developed at length for market and octavia to this last block, and it really helps to protect market street as a transit bicycle pedestrian corridor, so it seems like a very common-sense thing to do, and again, we bring you our wholehearted support for the measure. thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. those that would like to speak, please come and line of the pecan -- line up if you can. >> hello, supervisors. i represent the castro area planning. our members and members of other neighborhood groups have been working with the planning department and also some of the developers who are working to build new developments within the zone, over the past year. we wholeheartedly support this, and we believed it is a very sensible and really kind of a modest change to the zoning, but it also kind of completes the process that was begun s

police are called to a home on the 6100 block of harmon avenue at 8:00 and they found those men lying in the driveway. both men were taken to the hospital where they later died. two dogs were also shot. one of them was killed. witnesses saw two men running from the scene. so far, the suspects have not been found. >>> and at sfo, relatives waited quite a while for passengers on a flight that was named in a telephone threat. people on board the plane were released moments ago. they were flying to san francisco when that threat cyme in. the plane landed safe think and parked in a remote area of the tarmac. a search of the cargo area is on going, but so far it turned up nothing suspicious. >>> banning together to save the raid. why one group says it's time to get the party started again. >>> thousands of years old and more than 12 feet tall. the prehistoric find in a nearby county. ,,,,,,,,,, you want to get a great looking lawn like this, but trying to grow grass from seed in tough areas like deep shade, along the driveway, and where the kids play can be a little intimidating... until no

it happened on harmon street. police say the shots were fired from across the street and no suspect description is available. >>> this morning, students returning to berkeley high may feel uneasy, too. gun related incidents causing concerns. the first happened in a portable building, two students allegedly fired handgun inside a school bathroom. the weapon was dumped a few blocks away. no one hurt. the second incident involved an anonymous tip that a student was carrying a gun, school security detained a suspect before police arrived. >>> the government's first witness in the barry bonds perjury trial will face cross-examination later this morning. federal agent jeff nowitsk yirks will be questioned in a courtroom. he exposed the balco scandal. ruby will try to raise doubts about the agent's motives and methods, say experts. another government witness who is a former business partner with bonds will also face cross-examination. yesterday, bonds' personal trainer greg anderson refused to answer questions and was se

officers were called to a home on the 6100 block of harmon avenue around 8 p.m. last night found the victims in the driveway. they died it the hospital. a second dog there was shot, as well. it survived. witnesses saw two men running from that scene. >>> new information this morning about the passenger plane at sfo that police and bomb-sniffing dogs suspected after a called-in threat. authorities finished searching cargo overnight and found nothing suspicious. the philippines airline flight landed safely at sfo last night. among 337 passengers on board the lead singer for journey on board the plane. >>> it is 4:40. some big cuts coming for cal state schools. how many thousands of students could be turned away, coming up. >> plus, it's been getting very ugly. a dogfight pitting neighbor against neighbor in the east bay. why the location of a proposed park has some parents concerned there. >> and blackberry taking a play out of apple's book what makes its new tablet so different from the ipad. ,, [ wheezing breaths ] [ woman ] the first time i smoked, i was 13. i w

minister won't be granted any special immunity you've got it's national relations professor mark harmon says it's embarrassing for the taking except in this case there isn't. any notion. of threats against you do not exist and are going to wrong leaving a key figure in the lockerbie bombing. of the one hand he has an enormous a knowledge of the charges against congress and he will the british government. or the british public market are wrong and he's also if you figure in trying to undermine graft. but he also has a legacy or. it goes against. the words of the chief of police. of the united states has a long and mixed history of supporting rebels in internal conflicts and is also used again energy can reports helping out anti-government forces. the international community permitted intervention in libya to protect civilians from colonel qaddafi but washington wants to go further than that and is considering arming the rebels while officially denying that toppling khadafi is the objective of its involvement in libya but broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a

uprisings in the arab world saw people taking the lead that no longer seems the action in libya kiev harmon snow a war correspondent and former u.n. investigator thinks the libyan people have been cheated out of their own revolution and will be crushed by a u.s. led war machine. it's an absolute you know aggressive action by the western powers by the nato forces it's about arm sales minutes ago making sure that there's no popular uprising in libya or across the region this is really a very manipulated so-called conflict the people of libya are going to suffer the most and it won't be very long once they get out and before the people realize is that they have no control over their country because the united states and france and italy and britain have again it may be over quickly it may not by any united states and nato will be there military might will prevail one way or the other across any popular uprising which they've already partially done by letting conducting roll over those rebel forces for a while that was a tactic by the united states and they can get kidnapped to kill some of tho

independent journalist keith harmon snow says global media reports from libya last one fundamental thing and that's evidence of an all embracing conflict. government forces named it off its forces a weapons depot in one of these on the edge of one of the city's weapons depot had already been taken over by the rebels and it was a government weapons evoking beginning with the rebels took it over but when gadhafi bombed it then of course he was the enemy and he was the dictator and he said terrorists if canadian forces marched into washington d.c. and took over the pentagon and we responded nobody would call the american government a terrorist checking our own interests and that's what we're seeing here with gadhafi and some of these so-called bombings it's very interesting that there's very little in the presence of pictures but actual you know violence another theme in the reporting that i read today was this idea that people in washington are. conversing with governments in europe about what to do about this rogue state media and that and the need for humanitarian aid instead of military

all in a pair of journalist keith harmon snow says the u.s. is pumping out and can get off the propaganda to foster support for what he calls america's oil operation in libya. what we're getting is a pro us protesting on one sided picture of a situation which kills the media with the idea that there is freedom fighters involved in it and there's a government regime that and an atrocious terrorist government for the last seventy roughly this is nonsense and here was an established government whether we like them or not just north korea and iran are established governments when we like them or not or the sudan government and what's happening against them is a war of aggression we are serving one side to portray the idea that could happen is that care is to all these people been killed and freedom fighters are involved in it so it's a massive oil operations been going on with the support of the involvement of italy france and britain since one thousand nine hundred seventy since nine hundred fifty nine when he was one discovered and the us hasn't

foreign minister won't be granted any special immunity but international relations professor mark harmon says it's embarrassing for the u.k. to accept as truth is a man with a very deepest parts he was an intelligence officer in the. mars attacks and threats against you didn't exist in britain and then later on you figure in the lockerbie bombing so for one hand he has an enormous amount of knowledge about the charges against going to his regime british government raised as a reason why the british public are on the other hand he's also people doing trying to undermine. but he also has a legacy or didn't you it goes into operations against inside libya in other words the chief of police. of the united states has a long and mixed history of supporting rebels in internal conflicts and those are you've got to turn reports helping out how the government forces can sometimes backfire. the international community of primitive intervention in libya to protect civilians from canal khadafi put in washington wants to go further than that and is considering arming the rebels while officially denyin

independent journalist keith harmon snow says the u.s. is pumping out and to get off the propaganda to foster support for what he calls america's oil operation in libya. what we're getting is a pro u.s. program to be on one side picture of the situation which kills the media with the idea that there's freedom fighters involved in the area and then there is a government regime that's been in atrocious terrorist government for the last since one nine hundred seventy roughly this is nonsense and we knew it was an established government whether we like them or not just is north korea and iran are established governments when we like him or not or the sunni in government and what's happening against him is a war of aggression we are serving one side to portray the idea that gadhafi is the chair is to all these people have been killed and three in fighters involved freedom fighter language freedom fighter hasn't been used since the attacks against the by the contras against the garage in one thousand a.d. in it so it's a nasty war operations be

uprisings in the arab people take the no longer seems they fear keith harmon snow who is a war correspondent. best case claims to be happy. and hijacked by u.s. led coalition. there was no diplomatic activity this is. just another war and the world should really be frightened of the nature of nato and american power. their own dictators well there's a popular uprising component to the uprising of the rebels attacks there's also genuine genuine this immense but there's also islamic radical proxy forces there were backed by the united states during the cold during the cold war and there's. forces new front for the national review these are also part of the so-called rebels and they're backed by other restroom agencies like the national endowment for democracy were some firstly there so this is really a very manipulated so called conflict people of libya the real true free popular uprising people of libya are going to suffer the most and it won't be very long once they get out there before the people true ocular uprising realizes they have no control over their country because the united states

today protesters rallied at justice harmon plaza. tonight they're handing a candlelight vigil in san francisco square. >>> gadhafi forces today stepped up their attacks on rebel fighters. and in washington the u.s. evicted libyan diplomats. >> we are suspending our relationships with the existing libyan embassy. so we expect them to end operating as the embassy of libya. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton said she will meet with egypt leaders. >>> two sisters took center stage at the white house summit today. telling the president and the first lady about their efforts to help a young bullying victim. >> we took a small step in the right direction and i think that people in our community in the bay area really responded well to that. and everyone wanted to do the right thing which was to help this girl get through this victimizing experience. >> reporter: college student sarah and emily attended the first ever white house summit on bullying today and met privately with the president in the oval office. the sisters started a lette

president joining me to make sense of all this is independent journalist and war correspondent keith harmon snow keith thank you so much for being here now you heard what the president had to say so is all the hand-wringing about another protracted conflict a waste of time when obama said we're almost done right it's interesting that he says that it's immediately going to transfer over to the other foods when it was supposed to be an international coalition that we would support and also he says at the end of the first paragraph of one of the speeches that he gave to relieve the burden on the u.s. military the nation's taxpayers would be shifted to an international coalition this is such nonsense it being cared about america's taxpayers who are funding all of these words he would take some serious steps not to be embroiled in these kinds of things yeah i love how they just pick and choose when to emphasize international part of it and when not to i mean if you look at libya i mean this is a country that most americans probably couldn't place on a map even if you had it labeled so why do you

player idiot and lock ourselves into a position of diametrically opposed views we have to look to harmonize the possibilities of holding life is sacred and at the same time making sure that we make abortions less necessary in the society and we can do that i've often suggested or thought that if we're going to national referendum on the bench and not purchase of it when you we need men need to take a healing position on this we have to realize the effect of patriarchy but the mindset of patriarchy that we write that we inherit and that it causes us to act almost unconsciously i think it was. i think i'm trying to think of the author of. can't think of religious name but anyhow there was a book that i read that talked about the nature of patriarchy and really we have to think that you know we we cannot just ignore. the voices of women of course or on both sides of the issue but those who have concerns about a woman's woman sense of agency over her own life and this could take a set of your foot confederacy of all kinds of different directions. this will be right back still ahead here with us

. >> state senator tom harmon says democrats aren't willing to talk about a spending cap de.s are frustrated, especially with new numbers out showing republican party is only barely above 30%. >> it's a minority party that gets to dictate california's future. >> the talks are moving at such a snail's pace, the special election might get moved to june 14th, a week after other elections take place throughout the state to. these pro testers a later vote is better than no vote. because they say tuition hikes have become unbareable. >> we saw furloughs, class reductions and this is making it harder for students to graduate to get their degrees. >> you probably know about those cameras and there is a is a new legal challenge that could have implications for drivers around the state. >> thousands of tickets were dismissed last year after the city failed to give adequate notice of the red light cameras. now this, attorney is taking on daily city's cameras and is representing scott, nabbed here and heading east towards the freeway. >> this only sign they have here is heading west. there is nothing ea

key harmon snow a war correspondent ten former u.n. investigator says the coalition is defending the rebel forces which promote western interests president sarkozy from france has said today the libyan people must be able to choose their own destiny and after these attacks by the french and the united states hundred ten tomahawk missiles in the french flights air flights parents acts then we can return to diplomatic activity there was no diplomatic diplomatic activity this is an absolute war of aggression is just another war and of the world should really be frightened of the nature of nato and american power and attacking their own dictators well there is a popular uprising component to the uprising of the rebels attacks and maybe there's also genuine genuine dissonance but there's also islamic radical proxy forces that were backed by the united states or in calling in the cold war and there's a cia task force is the front for the national so initially yes these are also part of the so-called rebels and they're backed by other western

that is looking into the fact that spain is producing electricity like there's no tomorrow which harmonize even some i have to go up to new nuclear i harp government as i mean by that i don't know the way the germany did it was that people borrowed against their homes to put solar panels on their roofs ten year mortgage paid more for gas for the american family they paid more for their looks the when they sold the electricity the power company power company had to buy the electricity is seven times the normal rate at the end of the ten years there were back to normal and this is the old german program at the rate we're back to normal and so people had taken a. extra money from selling the electricity electric company used it to pay off the mortgage on their solar panel so they were essentially free in ten years they own them fifty year lifespan and they were able to get two gigawatts of the original goal was to get a watts of power the whole goal was to build not have to build to one go on nuclear reactors they ended up there just right now they're scaling the program down because in the l

well for more on the situation developing in libya let's talk to keith harmon so he's a war correspondentand former u.n. investigator thanks very much indeed for joining us live there in williamsburg in the states now gadhafi reportedly broke his promise of a cease fire yesterday so isn't military action now the only option of course not you can do all kinds. but there's been no except that it can talk about this. aggressive action by western powers by the nato forces. making sure that there's no particular uprising for across the region aggressive. action from the west but supported by the arab league by libya's neighbors isn't that significant you can buy off anyone you want in this world if you have enough money and what about then the fact that there's a lot of debate about whether this allied action is to overthrow gadhafi or indeed to save human lives whatever the outcome the result is going to be welcome isn't it well you know president sarkozy from france today the libyan people must be able to choose their own destiny and after the attacks. on the hog missiles and the free flight

two men and a dog were shot and killed while sitting on the porch of a home on harmon avenue in east oakland. it happened last night just after 8:00. police say both men were shot multiple times and died at the scene. several witnesses heard the gunshots. so far police have no description of the shooters or the getaway car. if you have any information, you are asked to call oakland police. >>> 8:34. security much tighter this morning at berkeley high school after three gun-related arrests. yesterday, three students were arrested when police found two guns on campus after one gun went off in a boys' bathroom. the bullet went through the bathroom wall but luckily nobody washy. now, school officials are adopting a policy that they hope will encourage students to report serious situations. >> we'll also have a text messaging service where kids can report weapons on campus aupon none mustily via text message and that should be up and running in the next couple of weeks. >> now, during the investigation police say he got a tip that another student also had a gun. police removed that studen

cover the day to day events there to help the rest of the world can grasp on what's going on kate harmon snow is a veteran war correspondent joining us from williamsburg massachusetts hey there you know i'm wondering if your take on this as you've been watching the coverage of libya certainly we've been getting some mixed messages from the ground rebels have taken over sirte and they're being pushed back but sort of challenges do you think journalists in libya are facing. well first of all if you're operating with the rebels you're either side you're operating with you're an embedded reporter you need better work or target for war journalists and being embedded means you can only cover one side of the conflict honestly or else you're going to be shot quite frankly u.s. military would not allow anyone to operate is going to tell the story of u.s. military bombings of hospitals for example that happened in libya killings of innocent civilians as soon as they do that's the end of their invented relationship with u.s. military other journalists who work independently in war zones like iraq o

. >> the state senators include tom barryhill, tom harmon, sam blakesly, bill emerson declined to be interviewed but in a letter said their ideas weren't taken far enough. we, quote therefore are disappointed our reforms were either rejected or water down with no real affect on future spending or economy. pension reform, a spending cap and relief rescinded demands but governor brown may be feeling ideas are too much and he won't be able to get labor unions to go far. >> i suspect the governor, his hands are tie smd what by the special interest that would have to pay for the election. which would be the public utilities commission -- union autos if voters don't get a say in the tax extension or if tax extensions get voted down education suffers biggest cuts. >> closing schools as much as four to five weeks early is a possibility. this governor is not about bravado or threats. he's trying to paint an accurate picture to people that. is the cost of not getting this budget done. >> some believe this is just part of a budget dance and that people are expecting more post you'ring this week

you can see in the show he harmonizes.d a song called "red is the rose," and, you know, many people feel, you know, that i zone in on my parents. well, there's a reason for that. they're the reason i'm here. my mom was an amazing woman. she's the backbone of my backbone. she was determined that she would give me every opportunity so that i would become what she believed was possible. my father was an extraordinary little man. my mom was only 5'4 ½. my father was only 5'4. >> carolyn: what happened? >> ronan: i know. so there you go. god. god decided there had to be someone big in the family. but both of them had, they were like the yin and the yang. mom was focused on getting educated, doing so many great things. dad was interested in the love of music and wanted me so much to pursue it. believe me, before your audiences ever heard me, the cows in the field heard me. >> carolyn: and you used to sing with your father as well. >> ronan: yeah, we used to sing all the time. and the one thing about, as dad used to say, he said

interesting points made on a good time to talk about it as we reach that i wasn't in libya actually harmon for now i turn our correspondent thanks so much. today marks the sixtieth anniversary of the day julius and ethel rosenberg were handed down a conviction for conspiracy to commit espionage for stealing atomic bomb secrets from the united states a ruling that would later lead to their execution we are talking about a time largely ruled by hysteria anti-communism sentiment and a fear of the unknown in light of the development of the atomic bomb his story has judged this case from many angles including those who call what happened or staying on america's history robert marable is one of ethel and julius julie rosenberg's two sons and also the founder of rosenberg fund for children. hey there robert you were six years old from what i understand when your parents were killed and how sixty years later has history judged what happened well we're all. my you know you were. and but. your interior. while. fear and or on your. own there are. all of you. talk about what it's been like for you ove

on but i don't journalists on the ground getting the accurate information earlier i spoke to keep harmon snell about when war correspondent in williamsburg massachusetts i asked him what sort of challenges journalists in libya are facing and why there are so many mixed messages either side you're operating with you're an embedded reporter unit it works we're talking for work journalists and being embedded means you can only cover one side of the conflict honestly or else you're going to be shot but frankly the u.s. military would not allow anyone to operate is going to tell the story of u.s. military bombings of hospitals for example that happened in libya. innocent civilians as soon as they do that's the end of their invented relationship with the u.s. military other journalists who work independently in war zones like iraq or afghanistan have been targeted and eliminated by their coalition forces meaning western forces meaning nido you know states britain etc because they've been reporting more honestly about what happens so it's impossible to be an independent journalist to some degre