my name is haro hashemi from the beckett fund. my question is about more of the constitutional development in these countries and the role that religion will play. taking into context just the various types of constitutional reck ignition of religion, turkey being a model which declares in its constitution that it's secular or pakistan that declares islamic religion of pakistan or indonesia saying it's based on the country -- that there is one fwood god. there's also a provision for religious liberty that people have the right to practice their religion. in contrast to these arab spring countries, particularly tunisia, i'm interested to see what you think of whether or not they will recognize islam outright as the religion of the state and how this will reflect on religions. >> i'm not an expert on tunisia. i spent some weeks there this spring in january for the anniversary. one of the things that instruct me, with nafta having won such a large -- 40% of the assembly, i was in a mountain top town called lakef on the anniversary of