>> harold, let me ask you. that the white house probably views nancy pelosi's statements and jimmy carter's statements as distractions in this health care debate? >> they would have to, even if there's some truth to what both may be saying. has very little to do with trying to advance a health care bill, trying to get back to an energy reform bill, and even to a financial reform bill the president wants. i hope -- and i was curious to hear david make the point to what eegs going -- mika, what will he focus on. if i were president obama and david axelrod and robert gibbs and rahm emmanuel, i would want this conversation on health care, where we go from the baucus bill. how do you hold democrats together and bring in a few republicans. the rest are distractions. >> when you have nancy pelosi again, the same person that used the term un-american to talk about tactics at town hall meetings, and harry reid calling americans evil, all you're doing is stirring up -- and as chuck said -- and i love how he said this --

how does he get them back, harold?nd not quite as bad. >> exactly. >> two. they have to sit back and figure out what is achievable in congress, and pay back some of the ambitions of the health care package and pass what is possible. ted kennedy, as liberal as some say he may have been, was productable. >> call in the senators -- listen, forget the republicans. just forget them and the same thing with our friend from iowa, grassley, and jon kyl, and i am just talking strategy, forget the republicans. but can't this president, he seems like such a likeable guy, move democrats in the middle? >> he will have to. if you watch the town hall meetings, these people are claiming they are guest the obama plan. there is no obama plan. we don't know what is it. he has to identify and outline a plan too. the expanding coverage of the uninsured will have to come when the economy gets back on track. insurance coverage ought to be the cornerstone and pillars of a health care plan. i think he can get that passed. >> they won't touch th

joining us, harold ford jr. of the chair of the democratic leadership council, rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york city, tom brokaw of nbc news. and tom friedman of "the new york times." let's start with health care. david axelrod spoke about security. is this a big theme for wednesday night? >> i would think it is. the president needs to clarify what he really does want out of health care in the next year. i'm pretty dialed into this issue and i'm with a lot of american people who have been watching all this. 50% of them say they don't understand what this debate is all about. my guess is that the number is probably closer to 80%. a lot of moderate democrats on the president's side of all this have some real reservations about where they can get to realistically. one of them, kent conrad of north dakota, a principal player in the gang of six is terribly worried about the cost of the public option. it is more than $1 trillion. david axelrod didn't raise that at a time when the country is trying to kick start

-- harold ford is with me here.the president talked about his own experiences, how it was hard without a father, it was hard for his single mother to wake up at 4:30 in the morning and teach him. all these personal experiences that students out there will be able to relate to. >> no doubt about it. mr. secretary, good to see you this morning. the fact that so many presidents haven't spoken more to students. i hope this becomes a tradition. >> i do, too. >> that the secretary lay this is out. mr. secretary, quick question. we expect a great speech today and read stories about how state and local revenue may be declining and some public schools may face cuts in teachers and may have to make layoffs. you're doing a herculean jb there. what plan do you have to prevent those things from happening as the school year goes on? >> yeah. basically we've tried to stav off an education catastrophe, due to how tough the economy was in every state, we were really worried about hundreds and hundreds of thousands of teachers being

joining us, harold ford jr. of the democratic leader council, former mayor of new york city, rudy giuliani, tom brokaw of nbc news and tom friedman of "the new york times." tom brokaw, first for you. there's a lot to go to. david axelrod used the word "security" over and over again. is that a big theme for wednesday night? >> i would think it is. the president needs to clarify what he really does want out of health care in the next year. i'm pretty dialed into this issue, and i'm with a lot of american people who have been watching all this. 50% of them say they don't understand what this debate is all about. my guess is that the number is probably closer to 80%. a lot of moderate democrats on the president's side of all this have some more reservations about where they can get to realistically. one of them, kent conrad of ed inned ed inned in north dakota, who is a principle player in the gang of six, is terribly concerned about the costs. the public option. david axelrod didn't raise that at a time when the co

c-span: and he kept -- if i remember rightdidn't he want harold ickes into this thing? >> guest: he kept urging them to find somebody with political smarts who could pull this thing together. mrs. clinton had worked primarily with ira magaziner in developing the health-care proposal, d mr. magaziner, to his credit, recognized that he s a policy person, but not a political person, not somebody who could manage this on capitol hill. and rockefeller kept saying to the white house, "who are you going to get who's going to focus on this and getting this through the congress?" and he suggested harold ickes, whom he haknown through the campaign, and who he knew the clintons felt great comfort with as somebody who was a skillful operative. ickes was doing other things in w york -- running a mayoral campaign -- and he had some doubts about whether he even wanted to come to washington to take on this kind of a challenge. in the end, in january of '94, the clintons persuade ickes to come down, and the first day that he is in the office, he finds that, instead of working on healt

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harold ford and i big fans of the tenth amendment.e got the interstate commerce clause. if health care is not something, mike, that is a national issue, i don't know what is. >> one company in alabama and several other states -- but alabama is typical of these states -- 90% of the health care providers provisions one company. my question to you is, if this bill passions or a bill passes, what happens to, say, my health care plan when my company that provides me with my health care plan is charged more for the health care plan? do they start trimming? >> they'll write fewer policies at that level or higher. they think it will create a ceiling in terms of what they're going to offer. let me tell you, i understand the concern here. gets right down to it. there are a lot of small fwrups where some of these plans are much more expensive for the same benefits i have because i go through the federal employees benefit program. when it gets down to it on the finance committee this week, i think affordability and this question are really going

harold ford jr., mark halperin, along with me and willie. explain how this broke down behind the scenes because we get a sense that the president as well as two other world leaders are going to be making a very clear statement this morning. chris, you got word overnight -- just how did things unfold in terms of our news gathering in terms of finding out about the president's statement and what the white house was going to be. >> the president released a press release saying there would be a statement at 8:30. then overnight, nbc news, "new york times" found out about the nuclear power facility. and now this morning the white house confirming this is what they're going to be talking about. a senior official saying those three leaders will make that statement at 8:30 this morning. >> and that they will appear together, which is important. the leaders of britain, france, along with president obama will be collective in their disgust, among other things, and their message. so let's talk about it. rapid fire here with our panel about what that me

is because we re having studs witrawal, forhe last eight years liz and i shared that stage at the harold washington library with studs talking about his life, his times. liz has known him for a long time. i have known him since the daye came to wley hospital, the night i was born to take my dad out for a drink. that's a very long time. it is hard to shake studs who died on hallo the night i was born to tak my dad out for a drink. that is a very long me and it's hard to shake stu who died on halloween this year. but this book brings him back to life for me in an unexpected and on believably charmi and real way. i know you agree, liz. whose idea, who was the genius that came up with this, it's unbelievable good. yeah, i mean ihink paul bdy service i think, you know, paul deserves, you know, like i think a lion's share of the material. i mean, t praise for during the book. for one thing, he has taught oral history for a long time at brown university and he has for a long time been a studserkel at marra -- at meijer a i think that the work is nic too. [laughter] >> it's not all yours, eher.

because we are having studs withdrawal, for the last eight yearsiz and i shared that stage at the harold washington library wi stu talking about his life, his times. liz has known him for a long time. i have known him since the day he came to wesley hospital, the night i was born to take my dad out for a drink. that's a very long time. it is hard to shake stu who died on halloen this year. but this book, brangs him back to life for me in an unexpected, and, unbelievably charming and real way. i know you agree, liz. paul and harvey, whose idea? how did you do this? who is the genius that came up with this? it is unbelievably good. >> paul. >> did he? >> paul, deserves i think you know, paul deserves, you know, like, i think a lion's share the material, the praise for doing the book. for one thing he has taught oral history for a long time at brown university and, you know, he is for a long time been a studs terkel admirer, and fan. i think that, you know, that, i think the artwork was real nice too. it was just -- >> it is not all yours either it is not all yours, is it? >> no. i didn't m

he was the love of owner sandra harold's life until last february when he became infamous for this: >illing my friend! >> what's killing your friend? >> my chimpanzee. he ripped her face off. >> he ripped her face off? >> he tried to attack me. please, please, hurry! >> there's someone on the way. >> travis almost killed her long-time friend in a vicious mauling that lasted nearly 12 minute, he ripped off her nose and eyelids and bit off her fingers. that attack prompted national geographic to explore the complex relationships between human and chimps in a documentary called "chimps on the edge." the documentary retraces the fateful day that things went terribly wrong when charlesa nash ended up mauled and a policeman had to shoot and kill travis. >> travis was not a bad chimp. he was an unfortunate chimp caught in a tragic situation. >> reporter: to april truitt and her husband, clay, who run the primate rescue center outside lexington, kentucky, that horrible attack could have been prevented. >> he had given every warning and every clue that he could that this was likely to happen.

could this harold a new chapter? first, this report. >> an iranian missile test -- fears about iran's potential for developing long-range missiles and capping them with nuclear warheads lay behind the bush administration's plans for the missile defense system. the project was to involve 10 intercepted missiles in poland. -- tan interceptor missiles. agreed to by then secretary of state condoleezza rise and the poll would foreign minister. the plan was for the missiles could be based among the cold war debris of this forbidding air base. complemented by radar installation in the czech republic. but russia had always seen the missile shield has less to count -- counter threats from iran, which long denied it had a nuclear weapons program, and more of a threat to its own nuclear deterrent. president medvedev and visiting a russian strategic nuclear base, as the fallout continued to be been geared president of -- deepened. for president obama shelving it would likely help improve relations with moscow. poland and the cze

nuck four is state department legal advisor harold co-, who advocates a "trans national legal process meaning judges should not follow american law when making decisions but also follow global norms. he once referred to george bush as our, quote, tort urer in chief. does he think we should apply shar aye law here in the united states? whatever happened to the constitution? and number three, samantha power, a senior director of the national security council. she had been a senior advisor in the campaign until she referred to hillary clinton as a, quote, monster. but now she's back. and her husband comes in at number two on the list, recently confirmed regulatory czar cass sunstein, who has said honey should be banned and that all organs should be donated. and then number one, the director of the white house office of science and technology, john holden. despite using the end of the world catastrophic rhetoric that's come to typify the environmentalist extremist movement he's written about population control and has come close to advancing some very interesting ideas cluth idea that ste

it is telling that bobby harold has gone to meet with the executive director.ut even more telling is the fact that bill sanford said this, and he said a couple of times recently. this is not verbatim, but it is roughly what he said. he said that the house does not -- the house does not want to wait on the ethics commission's full investigation, because that would take months and run into recession -- the session. therefore, the house will receive a preliminary report from the commission, and based on that report, make determinations to institute impeachment proceedings. when he is really saying there is, in the legal terms he was getting at, without the rest of the story, you just get the charges, but none of the rest of the story is the basis on which to decide or do not decide to bring impeachment proceedings, and that fundamentally is not fair, tied to the larger notion of everyone of us. you can have something against you, what you have to have your say to say, look, this is the rest of the story. that is fundamentally what this is about. we're simply sayin

. >> narrator: officer harold garzon joins the high-speed showdown just as the furious driver puts innocentlives in the crossfire. the maniacal driver nearly t-bones a loaded school bus. but when he still can't shake police, the hard-charger goes ballistic. >> he's driving opposite lanes, opposite direction. people are trying to get out of his way. he's essentially forcing vehicles off the road. [ tires screech ] >> narrator: a near head-on sends the suspect careening over the median, back to his side of the street. but the curb blows out a tire. seconds later, his hobbled ride approaches a congested intersection. time to trade wheels for heels. the man streaks across the asphalt, desperately trying to keep his pants up. >> he's got his hands down somewhere. i can't tell if he's going for a gun, if he's trying to grab something out of his pants, what he's doing. >> narrator: he doubles back through traffic, playing a mad game of hide-and-seek with officers. but by the time he makes it back to the intersection, mr. baggy bottoms is gassed. still, he refuses the order to lie down. >> he's not

nuck four is state department legal advisor harold co-, who advocates a "trans national legal process decisions but also follow global norms. he once referred to george bush as our, quote, tort urer in chief. does he think we should apply shar aye law here in the united states? whatever happened to the constitution? and number three, samantha power, a senior director of the national security council. she had been a senior advisor in the campaign until she referred to hillary clinton as a, quote, monster. but now she's back. and her husband comes in at number two on the list, recently confirmed regulatory czar cass sunstein, who has said honey should be banned and that all organs should be donated. and then number one, the director of the white house office of science and technology, john holden. despite using the end of the world catastrophic rhetoric that's come to typify the environmentalist extremist movement he's written about population control and has come close to advancing some very interesting ideas cluth idea that sterilizeation capsules should be implanted in people when th

harold williams pufshs it in for the bulls, up from three. 7-0. the bulls, the nickname.ging him down. 21-0. her ford. the bulls, every bit intrepid in the night skies. williams with the second touchdown run as he sheds the tackling. loaded in the backfield. they beat north harford, 35-7. >> the interest is in river hill. first place, second quarter, brent fuji with a four-run touchdown run. anton haze, intercepted. john mcmichael returning it. down to the 10-yard line. river hill didn't let it stay there long. harry, touchdown strike at the goal line. that is nick, running in the touchdown as river hell rolls 41-6. >> so much more of our high school sports coverage, scores and more, watch more of the highlights. visit wbal-tv 11 news and click on "extra points"." i'm gerry sandusky hope your weekend is off to a fantastic start. >> here is a look ahead to our next hour of 11 news saturday morning. >> the mishandling of an alleged rape case by city officers is under investigation by the department's internal affairs division. that story is coming up. >> plus lining up the

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. >> harold price fahringer has been on the front lines of the porn industry's fight for decades. he represented larry flynt, publisher of "hustler" in the 1970s, who fought several prominent first amendment cases. he was with flynt during the 1978 assassination attempt that made flynt a paraplegic. >> the bullet apparently came out the other side. >> have you seen max hardcore material? >> i haven't, but i've read enough about it to get a fairly good indication of what it's like and i find it utterly, grossly distasteful. you know, it's repulsive, it's revolting. but the problem is that once you start drawing a line, once you say that can't be seen by those who derive some kind of satisfaction from it, you're starting down that road that is censorship. >> do you consider yourself to be a champion of the porn industry? >> no, i don't. i'm a champion of the first amendment. i'm a champion of everybody having the right to read whatever they want. to make the choice, that's what's important. and we can't interfere with that in a free society. >> but porn opponents say that choice can

here is what harold elizabeth smart had to say about the recent morse deal earlier today. >> frankly, add revenue and take costs off our p & l, and we'll be a stronger business. we can focus that on where we are adding value. >> he actually also you said in that same interview basically that she would have done the deal, the full deal, but -- >> $24 billion? >> was it something along the line -- that was a remarkly candid response, and i think it certainly tells you the style of this woman who is not afraid to take this company in a new direction. i think that's what people are excited about, because these called no pirchlgz here. >> that's what happens when you get adult supervision at a -- carol barts is moving them in the right direction. she said do you think i'm stupid just like tim echos, they is not stupid. thee e she's doing what yeah new is best at, which is search for news. not search. they're the number one news site for fails or the number one news site for business and pns. that's what here trying to grow hoer. not the overall search. >> it's kind of ab interesting day. i

but not the end and not necessarily a harold of the end coming necessarily soon.nderson. >> i know a lot of people on that campus were hoping there was an announcement tonight that a suspect was in custody. that was certainly not the case at this hour. tom, appreciate the reporting. we'll check in with tom if there are any developments in the course of this hour. want to dig deep we are a criminal pathologist, dr. wecht. with we know this young woman's body was basically stuffed into a wall, i imagine hastily, somewhat hastily, bloody clothes stuffed into a ceiling, it would sound like there would be at least a fair amount of possible evidence, possible dna evidence. >> i'm certain there is. there's a principle known as lokarg principle. when you have this kind of a physical altercation, then you could be certain there's going to be a transfer of some forensic scientific evidence, fair, fiber, some kind of trace evidence that they are working on. and i understand as has been pointed out that it's necessary to do a thorough dna analysis. keep in mind, historically,

it goes back to nixon's southern strategy, bob corker won a senate race against harold ford tapping intoll crackers in this country, and it's unfortunate, but it's what it is. this is the base of the republican party, whether it's the tea baggers or the birthers or these other efforts to undermine the legitimacy of barack obama as president because he's a black man. the vast majority of americans have moved on and we are a tolerant and a pluralistic society. but there are still politicians and campaigns that will try to use these wedge issues and drum up race to score points. >> jack, your thoughts on nancy pelosi's emotion today? but also the president is going to be doing a lot of interviews this weekend, hitting all the major shows. and the issue of race is going to come up. do you think he should address it or brush it off and leave it where it is? >> i don't think he can brush it off. what he has to do is focus on what the american people need. he's been very smart when it came to jeremiah wright, and this. robert gibbs said just yesterday, he doesn't see this as a racial issue. i t

so it is telling that he has gone to meet with herb hayden, executive director and telling bobby haroldas gone to meet with the executive director but even more telling is the fact that sanford said this. he said this a couple of times recently. and this is not verbatim but this is roughly what he said. he said the house does not -- in response to a question -- a conference, couple of conferences, the house does not want to wait on the ethics commission bold investigation because that would take months and run into the session. therefore, the house is going to receive a preliminary report from the commission and based on that report make determination to institute impeachment proceedings. there was -- what he is saying there is without the legal terms which was -- without, quote, paul harvey's rest of the story, you get to take the charges but none of the defense, none of the rest of the story, as the basis on which you -- either decide or don't decide to bring procedural proceedings. that fundamentally is not fair the larger notion of every one of us should -- should be for or against

he is 56 harold alladi. he was allowed by nevada state law to file in the name that h was commonly used by and he had a faithful disciple who claim that people always did call him god almighty or at least he acted that way. i editorialize the little bit of the peace and i said no one has to wonder or one has to wonder what god almighty will think of a vote for none of the above which is another option in nevada but on second thought ghy wmuld god almighty want to join the u.s. senat wit99 others who already think they are him? [laughter] from the carson city news bureau. by the way in spite of all my hyder connections i never could get an intervi with god almighty. the lasting will tell you about before question in answers was my marriage. i did have a uniqu background in my married life nd a very happy one it is. we would all like to think that we found a match made in heaven. mine was a little more liberal than that because i believed in a certain person, the reverend moon who we thought was arranging our

i would ask at this point that one thing we do remember, and it was back harold banisters question earlier, what i hope and my question -- and my heart more than any single thing is that however this issue is resolved, that at the end of the day we will realize that there are more things that bind us together as americans dead separate. i hope that we keep that in our hearts. thank you all, and goodnight. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> would you start the dialogue for getting medical -- military personnel of the federal employees plan question are >> i will look into that. we are you to greta's obligation of all. >> we are the only federal employees that are excluded. >> i'll talk to my office. >> thank you for doing this. i am the chief of anesthesiology at a large medical center here. one question, a lot of physicians' concerns with a government auction, and i think they believe that the obama plan, it is not going increase the number of decisions. in lives -- we have people looking for a way out of medi

she began her political career in chicago, with mayor harold washington.n 1995, jarrett left politics for the habitat company where she served as a ceo. these are just a few of the black women in the obama administration who have stepped into their roles quietly, but may leave a profound mark on american politics. >> and joining us now is the journalist who was able to get these women together. i don't know how you did that! "essence" magazine's washington correspondent, cynthia gordy. cynthia, good to see you. >> good so see you. thank you for having me. >> that was a struggle. how did the president find 16 black women to place in critical positions in this administration? got to tell you, i have sat through so many diversity discussions, where i've listened to executives say they can't find minority candidates for jobs. >> right. >> and this president finds 16. were you surprised to find this number of black women in key positions? >> well, first i think i should mention that there are more than 16 women that we featured in the photo shoot. two of them h

polanski couldn't go to the u.s., so his friend harold ford traveled abroad to present it. the united states district attorney's office informed swiss police he was expected in zurich this weekend. >> of course, he's not a swiss citizen. so this case will turn on swiss law and how they will interpret what happened in the proceedings back in the u.s. >> reporter: polanski's being held in jail while the u.s. has 60 days to file for his extradition. he has the right to contest his detention and any extradition decision in a swiss court. thomas aspell, london. >> we have a world teeming with terrorists walking around the united states, and we're going after roman polanski, when his victim has said repeatedly, let it go. >> they had a settlement. i'm not saying it makes anything okay, but they had closed the door on it once. >> light up old sparky and let him ride the lightning. >> should i have gone to pat? >> jerry lee lewis, he married the 13-year-old. we didn't know what to make of that. of course, that's the south. >>> officials in the philippines say at least 100 people ar

ambassador harold geisel serves as acting inspector general for the department of state. to 2003, he served as head of delegation but negotiations with the people's republic of china on the construction of a new embassy. prior to serving as those, he served more than 25 years in united states foreign service. he holds a b.a. from johns hopkins university and an m.s. from the university of virginia. ms. jacquelyn williams as bridges served as managing director in the government accountability office. prior to this position, she served as the inspector general with united states department of state and the united states arms control and disarmament agency in the united states information agency and the broadcasting board of governors. thank you all again for you when this is your day and making yourself available with your substantial expertise. as you all know, it is the policy of this committee to swear witnesses in before they testify, i ask you all to please stand and raise your right hands. is there and new -- if there's anyone else will be testifying with you, i ask t

harold from westwood, new jersey. caller: good morning, steve.'m so happy to hear morality issues being discussed. planned parenthood does toen born girls an boys what nobody would do to a puppy or a kitten. why do we -- why do we treat unborn children for the convenes of the abortioners. they cut often their hands and feet for the sole purpose to make sure the dead or almost dead chilled come through the child. another big issue our president has said higher quality care costs less. that is what he said. that is like saying that a cadillac costs less than a chevrolet. our president reminds me specifically of the trap we weaver when first we start it practice to deceive. host: the president is to address a joint session of congress next wednesday evening. catherine in dallas. stpwhroo -- caller: i have a problem. i'm a veteran employee. at age 62 they pay half of my retirement. my actual social security benefits don't kick in until age 65 -- i mean 66. meantime, i have to live off half of money that i worked 20 or 30 years for on my retirement. s

harold maxwell, who belongs to the arizona farm bureau. he lives in yuma and he was involved in the heritage designation in that area and he worked very hard to get private property rights included in that -- protection included in that area of arizona. but he has an article that i think spells out a lot of what we were talking about on our side of the need to further protect private property rights. so i ask unanimous consent that his article appear in the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. hastings: thank you. i yield back my time -- i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from arizona. mr. grijalva: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve our time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from washington. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, if i ask my friend, does he have no more speakers? with that, mr. speaker, i'd like to yield as much time as he may consume to the distinguished ranking member on the nat

. >> does this harold some opening of trade with russia? >> we still have a vibrant missile defense system in europe. i think that is not the position the russians would like the americans to have. but i will tell you this. the president always believed that the criticism from russia was on founded, as he said. -- the criticism was unfounded, as he said. we will give you a sense of that later on the weekend. -- in the weekend. >> is there a health care component to that? >> i assume he will talk about it, but he is not focused on health care. >> in light of senate amendments banning federal funding for acorn -- >> i do not know if we have seen that. i think that the president shares the outrage of what he saw on the tapes, and i will leave it at that. >> on a question of overexposure, can you tell me a little bit about what he was expecting to talk about? anything beyond health care? will he make big news? >> i am not going to do that. i am going to hold my tongue. [laughter] no -- i do love this. at least half the questions the other day -

harold was a family man. this large extended family included his wife of 56 years, ann; three sons and two daughters, 12 grandchildren. he had an optimist outlook on life, a knack for storeytelling, he cast a spell over everyone in his presence. many of his stories were about growing up in a family with nine other siblings reared on a hillside farm in northern vermont. i could think of more than one occasion, mr. president, when marcel and i would be there, we'd be listening to one of these stories. i knew that we might be late for the next thing but i didn't want it to end. i wanted to hear what else he had to say. and harold was a man that seemed to accomplish more each year than most of us do in a lifetime. he built his fairfield, vermont farm to over 1,000 acres, including land that had been worked by his family since the mid 1800's and now is tended by the next generation. i remember him as a dynamic man. as genuinely comfortable in his public duties as he was in the dairy parlor or out splitting wood. i