>> all right. >> go ahead, harold. >> senator harold ford, good morning. >> hey, junior, how are you?er. you -- i hope the way they're getting out to sign the no taxes. i hope the gang of six says, hey, look, we're willing to take some of the courageous steps that you've laid out. the next step for you, how does the gang of six try to influence the special committee. >> i think we first, harold, we have to see who's on there and we have to try to influence and say here's the things we learned, here's the things that we the do. i don't expect a committee to come up with anything, number one, because nothing you'll have people -- there's going to be firm positions on both sides. that's number one. but they may. i don't expect the sequestration work either. we waved pay-go 65 times last year just saying, oh, well, the rules don't apply. and that's what will happen in the senate. so i -- i don't -- i don't think that -- that's why i said 98% of the benefit to the country in terms of quote, savings, which are not real savings, doan occur until november of 2012. so we're playing the game ag

former democratic congressman from tennessee harold ford jr. columnist for the "wall street journal" peggy noonan. e.j. dionne. and host of cnbc's "closing bell," maria bartiromo. >> announcer: from cnbc news in washington, "meet the press" with david gregory. substituting today, savannah guthrie. >>> good morning. the president is on day three of his ten-day vacation in martha's vineyard spending time with family and friends, hitting the links and doing some book shopping. aides say the president is being kept up to date on the situation in libya over the weekend. fighting intensified as rebels battle through the capital city of tripoli. new reports today of gunfire and explosions this morning. >>> also on the president's mind during this vacation, his plans to unveil a new jobs package in a major speech after labor day. and here with us to talk about the president's jobs agenda and his re-election efforts, a familiar face to many from his days as white house press secretary, robert gibbs, now a key adviser to the president's campaign. robert,

wrote it for harold bloom. he first called it the death of art and. reading well is one the greatest pleasures. i am dedicating to harold bloom. i am not a poet. i want to be rich. i have had a great sex life. i am not a poet. georgia i do not like being called an act visit. i cannot be considered a vegetarian. i will give my ass up and like it. i would be inspired. i may value peace, but will not use a pen to unleash my anger. i am not a poet. i am not dying. weight loss can still be a choice. i am not a poet. i don't care much for. i don't spend me weekends read anything writing. i like to have cocktails but i do not have a drinking problem regardless of what state i wake up in. i don't need drugs to open up my imagination. i am not a poet. i can tolerate half an hour of spoken word poetry. what my cats are up to. i always carry my business cards. i am not a poet, i only write to masture bait my mind. i am trying to convince myself that poetry it save lives. it's the dust of art. and i am going to close with to poet. americano. i look at myself in t

new york post, hand me that harold, will you?sh miss on the back of the new york post. >> tied with the red sox. >> the yankees lost, red sox capitalized. adrian gonzalez making the case for a.l.mvp. in the fourth, he's going to do it again. 20 home runs, 97 rbis. the red sox win, 11-5. boston and new york tied. they meet for a three-game series next week. cardinals and dodgers. by the ninth inning, dodgers up 11-0. tony la russa lets his second baseman pitch. he gets off to a nice start. a strikeout. fans get with the good times. the next batter, a former teammate makes a play. that's his buddy, erin miles. cardinals lose, 13-2. milwaukee beat the pirates, 11-4. the brewers running away with the division, if you can believe it. they are up ten games on st. louis. yesterday, university of tennessee's head basketball coach, pat summitt made a stunning announcement in a prerecorded video. >> throughout my career i have always made it a point that my life and our basketball program were an open book. with that in mind, i have someth

back with us on set, john meacham and harold ford jr. >> how are you doing, harold?e going to get better. i trust him. what about you? >> the right message, the right tone, and, you know, financial markets had to enjoy hearing him say that. invests her to appreciate hearing him say that. i hope the white house and those in washington heard the message loud and clear. not only do we need to work together, but the tone, the message needs to be more coordinated. the policy needs to be more coordinated. i was pleased to hear him yesterday. i don't think i was alone either. >> no. good to hear him out there. >> a very -- sort of hard to find, but there are bright spots. i was reading -- >> really? >> yes. i heard about tech firms hiring. >> that's good. >> and there are bright spots. >> little bright spots. >> maybe we'll get there. >> investors fleeing u.s. stocks in droves for the second time this week as concerns about the health of french banks and fears of another global economic downturn led to steep losses on wall street. the dow tumbling 519 points, over 4.6%, wip

>> harold ford jr.dacy are her willingness to talk about some of her radical intellectual influences and her tendencies to speak before she thinks, garbles world, and says things that don't make sense. could one with argue that in 2000, george w. bush could have a second characteristic? not saying he did. but if that's true, how much will that hurt her if she turns out to be the nominee? >> we all new bush sort of stumbled on his words, occasionally, but bachmann, it's a little bit worse than that. she is remarkable -- i've never really covered a candidate of her stature who gets so many facts wrong. i don't mean to be harsh, but i've been covering -- this is the fourth presidential campaign i've covered, and i've never covered someone like her who is so careless with the facts, and in important ways. on the intellectual background, if you really look closely at what influence bachmann intellectually, very, very different than george w. bush. >> no, i'm saying not the first one, but what are some of the

one day he muttered to interior secretary harold dickeys, take tidings' hide off and rub salt in it. tidings had opposed nearly every new deal measure. the nra, the tva, the agricultural adjustment act, the wagner act, works progress administration, housing bills, revenue act and court reform. even on social security he voted only present. and in a veiled attack on fdr, he even warned of home grown dick dictatorship. and yet tidings was completely aware of the president's extraordinary popularity and also insisted that he embraced the bones of the new deal. so fdr entered maryland on labor day weekend before the maryland primary and gave speeches for the challenger, liberal democrat davy lewis. as for tidings, fdr never pronounced his name. he told crowds only that any politician had the right to be liberal, conservative and even reactionary. but, he said, the nation cannot stand for the confusion of having him pretend to be one and act like the other. well, what finally happened? george, tidings, south carolina senator smith and the other conservative incumbents all won their primar

harold pump, a deet voted husband and loving father lost his battle to lymphoma 11 years ago. >> before our dad passed away we told we would turn a negative into a positive. >> for the past 11 years they're organized the harold pump foundation gala in los angeles bye draws some of the biggest names in show biz and sports, denzel washington, muhammad ali and even mexico's former president vicx,te are a list of celebrities who attend each year to raise money for cancer treatment. >> you're honoring all of those people whose lives have been touched by this beast and who every day fight that battle and with the help of the two slightly overweight red-headed freckle face jewish boys-- >> through personal relationships they've been able to donate more than 5 million dollars to the north ridge hospital medical center creating the carol pump women cancer center and buying the latest in digital mammogram equipment for breast cancer screening and early detection screening throughout north ridge. >> how fortunate to meet wo guys that passionate raising money to fight cancer in honor of their dad.

let's bring back georgetown professor michael eric dyson and harold cook.nks for being here tonight. of course, mitt romney has, i think, another problem with rick perry. i want to see romney go out and tell the christian conservatives, hey, i'm your guy. michael eric dyson, what does it mean now that there's an evangelical christian up there against the mormons. i don't think the hard christian right in this country will go with a mormon in any way, shape or form if there's an acceptable candidate from your faith. your thought science. >> you're right, ed. the reality is the evangelical right is concerned about a narrow conception of religious, even a more narrow conception of christianity. there's no way they will side with mitt romney as a mormon against the identifiable brand, the one they know, which is rick perry. this guy preached jesus to 30,000 people in a stadium. he continues to i think in a dangerous way fuse church and state. i think this evangelical plays strictly to the conservatives in his party, and there's no way they will in contrast to t

and i do -- harold's right. i do want the president to be bold. -- i've been watching cnbc more than i ever have before and enjoying it. i see one ceo after another come on there and say, well, it's not the thing to do when we may be heading into a second recession. we need government to step in. the governments around the world in march of 2009 got together and organized an international stimulus plan which kept us from falling into a depression. the president's got to go out there with support from the business folks i see all the time on cnbc. it's not about regulation. it's about demand. >> it is a dand story. there's also a regulatory environment which people still do not know and understand how it is going to look in six months. >> you said basically you're hoping the president goes big or goes home with this jobs plan. so far there's no indication that he plans to go big. i mean, do you think that he presettles? in other words, makes a political calculation about what can get passed as opposed to going out there strongly and saying this is

we are going to pick this one from "the washington post" by harold.till obama's party. the democratic threat to obama will come in the general elections when millions of voter who is searched for obama. obama needs to figure out what to say and do to rekindle their and everyone else's hopes. >> mark, harold is right. but the president, he's got to do two things. he has to drive this out. what is the white house plan? >> i mean, i don't think it's likely the president will get a higher percentage of the white vote than last time. a lot of the people are first time voters and the president won them. i think in a modern age, with the campaign that well funded, they are going to find a way to communicate. he needs a message that keeps his base happy. >> if you say that he's not going to get more white votes, more suburban votes, that's going to turn this into a democratic version of krorl rove in 2004. >> they are going to pull out the base. the base in l.a. and new york -- >> the base in florida. >> it's correct, if you look at the polling, he's doing we

harold will think. i need to get closer and closer to the herring and call to him in this way. hello mr. herring. the herring will think. that is strange, if you want to catch me, why is he getting further away. i don't understand. do you under stand? actually i'm going to be getting closer and closer to the herring and i make my voice smaller and smaller, so the herring will think i'm going away. it's very interesting and what will happen next. i sneak up just behind the herring and i say, what. what will you say? i can't hear anything. >> that's idea i make my voice smaller until i make no sound at alright. so the herring will think, he's gone. well, no fun today i guess but any way i am safe. and at that moment i capture him. what do you think of my wonderful idea. great. very good. very interesting. i'd like to see you try it. thank you and can you suggest a good place to catch and find many snow herrings. sure. into the temple. why don't you go there. thank you. i go now. going into the temple, the temple gate is closed for the night and the temple wall is too high for me

and the most fascinating example was harold simmons, who is the second largest individual contributor to governor perry. he gave him over $1 million in the last decade. and governor perry signed a law that harold simmons' company, waste control specialists, lobbied hard to pass which would allow a private company to operate a low level radioactive waste disposal site in texas. and then perry appointees then granted that single license to wcs. >> so obviously that is incredibly icky, and particularly that final one, the idea that there is a potential nuclear polluting threat that's given sort of carte blanche to go into this community, even after we have findings. but is there anything actually illegal about this donation and favors relationship, or is this just kind of how they do business in texas? >> well, we found no evidence of illegality. and i would say unfortunately for our system, it's not just the way they do business in texas. this is a reality of the role of our political system in our country. to varying degrees we see examples of this across the political spectrum. to be

wonder his opponents try to avoid corners and free kicks his a rival in the opposition walks oh is harold's danger as he can give a hand story to any forward in their old battles ensures the twenty. one hundred fifty games for the number despite never finding the. who is he says he would consider a move big. not yet. i always repeat that i'm very grateful to the plates at that point in my career they helped me a lot and i always wanted to return them full and almost every year i get office from by now i'm good and i don't see any reason to leave this place but sometimes i want to return to return forever but not to go back there until i retire. however the two thousand and four olympic champion american run up and one of the best defenders in russia stillings to win a trophy. that's moved to england now where premier league title hopefuls arsenal and liverpool went head to head in the pick of saturday's action. open for . only seventy eight minutes. fast. elsewhen you. on the road by a single goal three games and progress. on average in face. the schools on the screens and in the late highl

meet next week, but there will meet in two weeks to take an item that was recently before you, 524 harold street, about an office location. an appeal was filed. it is scheduled for hearing on the 10th, but they did not show

who are they again that is the question golfing fans may be forgiven for asking as the on harold and purring of jason dufner keegan bradley take the lead of the halfway stage of the p.g.a. championship. conference on her wall of ice talkies biggest stars you've given mark insurers his views of the party on the gang life in the u.s. and sid the kid crosby. let's get on with russian football where another weekend of premier league action is underway the first match of four on sunday now wrapped up its part technology climbing off boston after a two know when i wait to see a late strike from alexandra. arsons cough making the difference in tomsk up results meaning clearly it's obvious after lie all alone of the basement there is joy. or half an hour ago in the clash between third placed in on the moscow and turk roles in a new score is yet to remain in key it's today's big much after the leading c s which mean the muscovite seeming to rectify last week's defeat to sleet for all staff who runs our city's fixtures. and it is grand kick off the over an england twenty eleven twenty twelve p

meet next week, but there will meet in two weeks to take an item that was recently before you, 524 harold street, about an office location. an appeal was filed. it is scheduled for hearing on the 10th, but they did not show at the hearing we had in gen. the file the appeal, but they did not submit their brief on time for the hearing. so we do not quite know what their arguments will be at that hearing or if they will even show for that hearing, but we will keep you apprised of any events there. >> there was no historic preservation commission this week. president olague for those who came later, we did continue the petco item and the leland avenue item. so it became for either of those, there will not be heard today. >> this is item 9, 2011.0661i at 135 main street. a report on samuel merritt universities every be it in -- abbreviated institutional master plan. >> sponsor? kurtzer will submit for mr. crawford. this is the abbreviated institutional master plan for the samuel merritt university. the first filing of an imp for this institution. they're based in oakland. san francisco is one

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but harold is the most decorated man in the history of cia. he was the legendary field officer, he was stationed in iran and in most cue and berlin during the cold war. he ran the cia war against the russians in afghanistan. he was the one that was in charge of the smuggling in the arms. one of howard's most remark many stories was when she was in iraq when he took over, the guard found him shortly after he was paying off a double agent in the secret police and started to stalk him to death. the two guys. they were well on the way when howard pulled out a gun and killed them both. he made his way back, didn't complain about his injuries, because he wanted to stay on the job. eventually got out and when he got out back to america, he looked at him and said the only time i've seen internal injuries this bad were in head on car wrecks and they were dead. he lives now in incredible amounts of pain. he's a very, very brave man. but in any event, involved in helping me get things right. >> among the people you credit, leon panetta, william cohen. >>

carefully build up a liberal base.u roosevelt did not succeed of the bowl of party realignment but it did harold the realignment in the 1960's and '70s and '80s in the civil rights act 64 and 65 after nixon and reagan says aaron strategies. the solidly democratic south is solid no more.ny what happened in the immediate aftermath? roosevelt had to eat humble pie to make nice with all the senators he had alienated that what interested me the most many of the economic and social conservatives that roosevelt had thought to banish from the party, especially the ones from the south and in the battle against isolationist and congress 1938 through 1940 country after country fell to hitler naked aggression and in the east, invading french indochina and roosevelt desperately needed the support of the international last and congress and of the seven contingent was the most interventionist and the beast isolationist in the nation. the president needed their support.o walter george and other conservative senators that back fdr the tidings at maryland in karcher glass and byrd of virginia and others. the glas

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harold, if you don't run you can't win. that is so important. if you never get off the sidelines and get in the game, never willing to get out of the shadows and get in the arena at you will never accomplish anything that matters not only for yourself but for lots of other people and the nation as well. always be willing to take the risk. it is tough. it is not easy but in the end when you accomplish things that really matter and help other people along the way during the journey it is all worth it. that is something this country have always done and we need young people who understand that and keep doing it so we will remain the greatest nation. thank you very much. [applause] >> your chance to yell at a congressman. step up and fire away. there we go. the first guy. he asked the question every time. you should know we have people like this in congress. every time there's a mike some people go to every time. go ahead. >> my question for you is straying away from positive attitude. how to decipher between risk and being not leave? >> i see where

but fdr i write about a lot, harold ickes his interior secretary... >> yeah. >> .fred seaton, the interior secretary for dwight eisenhower, they all had a vision that we needed to keep some places wild like. >> right. >> .here in texas, guadalupe mountains or south padre island or big bend or the big thicket. these are.these are our gifts to our kids' kids. >> yeah. every state has places like that. >> yes. >> this is a story of a place as opposed to a person but in some ways this is a biography of this place every bit as much as some of the many biographies you've written over the years approaches the subject that way. you're bringing out the human qualities and i.that in my mind at least distinguishes this from the kind of book that would be written on this subject by somebody else. >> well that's exactly the way i thought of it. and there's a woman named mardy murie who lived to be over a hundred and won the presidential medal of freedom. >> yeah. >> .and she got married up in the arctic with her husband and they lived all over but went by dogsled on their honeymoon up there in the 1920

paragon of advertisers and the sensationalist trading in new preston the church e efficiency expert harold good as the cyclone injure any city you choose to lay with some church to galvanize them and iraq day living and lasting monument to his abilities but after witnessing his performance in the cleveland declared in the service of a business corporation his genius would be worth $50,000 per year. he understated the case. that gives a glimpse of the press clippings around the country many don't know but was the emerging figure. you how we don't know because of the whole story that happen. most are familiar with the scopes trial in dayton tennessee the issue was evolution and lawyers pitted against each other was william jennings bryan 1900 and 1908 and then nominate three times. than a hero of the little people coming in the great, thereby the twenties he is in his 60s and relegated to the yes side role of party politics and becomes the leader of the movement called fundamentalism. at the apex is when the big trial took place and of course, william jennings bryan goes down to work with th

that's a pretty harolded part of the american system, but i wonder with this data in the new york times report, looks to me maybe the tea party isn't actually these kind of grassroots activists, these new voices. is there something this data tells us that might make me more concerned that the tea party is a different group than it has at one point presented itself to be? >> it was always a group of conservatives and conservative-lining independents who usually vote republican but who aren't happy with republicans over the last year. if you interview lots of tea partiers, as i have, you don't find more any of them who vote democratic. occasionally, they voted for carter and regret it. this was obviously a republican group and social conservative group. it's good they point that out, because one thing the tea party did for republicans in 2009-2010 is allow them to rebrand themselves as not george bush's party, but a party about economic angst, about, among other things, keeping taxes low and protecting medicare. it wasn't about the issues that these activists, the activists, the base of t

former democratic congressman from tennessee harold ford jr.peggy noon. e.j. dionne. and host of cnbc's "closing bell," maria bartiromo. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good morning.

this is the one harold put his finger on it, looked at me, said where did you get this drawing it lookedsaid i made that drawing, and you could have knocked him over. then he waved his hand over it, how did you know where this stuff was? >> there's still a working nuclear weapon and they don't want that information out there. i'm a truck driver, i didn't finish my university degree, i drive semis for a living. if i can figure this out -- >> that clip was from a great documentary called "the atomic trucker." you can watch it at our blog if you are so inclined. it's great. the point here is that nuclear bombs can be built and assembled. it's not easy, but it's not impossible. that's why experts on nuclear weapons and terrorism generally can see the single hardest thing about assembling a nuclear bomb is getting your hands on the 40 pounds of nuclear material, not building the bomb itself. of course, if you're not interested in a mushroom cloud, then any good amount of radioactive material should suffice for that. of course, the more radioactive the material, the better. over the past decad

then there's harold simmons who has given perry $1.12 million. passed a controversial law that gave simmons' firm permission to build a radio active waste disposal site despite scientists saying it was an environmental hazard. but in his 2007 state of the state address, perry was touting the benefits of honest government saying, quote, government that is open and honest will always be able to with stand the light of day. seems like everything is bigger in texas. including hypocrisy. rick perry saying he's for honest government, then rewarding donors with texas size perks is our con job of the day. [ grandma ] why do relationships matter? [ grandpa ] relationships are the basis of everything. [ grandma ] relationships are life... if you don't have that thing that fills your heart and your soul, you're missing that part of your life that just fulfills you. ♪ [ male announcer ] for us at humana, relationships matter too. the better we know you, the better we can help you choose the right medicare plan. that's why humana agents sit down with you to f

robert taft, harold stassin, george mcgovern, gene mccarthy, gary hart, richard gephardt, the list goes on and on. tell us how romney got on that list, and what it means to his candidacy. >> well, romney ran as we know in 2008, did okay. got about 20% of the vote. 17% of the delegates. now he is trying to come back four years later to win the presidency. it's never happened. that's why he is on the list. it's a long list of losers, and romney will be added to it. >> and the losers are people who tried to run for president four years after losing. >> right. it's the four-year itch. you have to get rid of that four-year itch. it just doesn't work. >> and so mike huckabee is the guy who saw this list apparently. did you share this list with mike huckabee earlier this year so that he could make the historically correct decision of keeping his day job and not running for president four years later? because mike huckabee came in second, not romney. >> that's true. but i understand he talks to a higher authority. so he got the word from a higher authority. he did make the right decision. as yo