you've had many brilliant conversations with harold bloom. shakespeare invented the human.im ourcholar called contemporary. the process of living. it applies across many of these. one's soul is shaken by what macbeth does to the audience. we are the lucky vessels through which this thing passes currently in this particular show. >> five minutes before you go on, what are you doing, what are you thinking, what are you saying to yourself? >> i'm meditating. >> clearing your mind. >> my favorite quote is at the end of hamlet. "the readiness is all." my whole day dedicated to getting ready to that moment. are you having a wonderful time in new york? yes. andin the theater hours hours before any sane human. i do meditation. i do lines every day. that you do the whole clay and varying ways. the five minutes before you go on, you meditate. i swear to god i think this is just the most fantastic thing to be able to do. it is really tingly. it's not an easy thing to do. theare aware of the sort of efforts of it in terms of what we do, but it is absolutely a glorious thing to do. like

. >> charlie: do you believe as harold bloom said and ken referenced in our earlier conversation that this is the happiest marriage in shakespeare? >> well, i think it begins like that. >> it's one of the most passionate. >> charlie: the sexual dynamic is there. >> especially the way that you guys play it, that you keep, no matter what is happening to you, you keep trying to find each other through it. >> yes, yeah. the dearest partner in greatness. >> charlie: dearest partner in greatness. >> she's equal. he adores her, worships her. that's how he knows who he is because of what he feels for her. he loves her. he's a relatively simple soldier, loves his wife, you've got the great honor, and then -- it's that conversation that if we stop that conversation, if i had been able to convince you, we'll proceed no further in this business, let's take a few months of having the parties and all that -- >> if we were to use the evennality, when she opens up, that's the apple. >> charlie: that's the apple. because that's what suddenly makes him go. >> charlie: yeah. okay. >> charlie: okay what?