harold brown it was secretary from 1977-81, then go to william perry who was secretary from 1994-97. bill, can you hear us? we couldn't hear your response. >> i can hear you fine. >> terrific. and we will go to senator william cohen who was secretary from 97-2001. and, finally, to senator chuck hagel who was secretary from 2013 to less than a year ago. i and the american people cannot thank all of you enough for your service to our country. and i'm honored to be here with you today. secretary brown, you were secretary when we established diplomatic relations with china, and i was a young lawyer. the chinese are fond of saying a small potato, and the state department. tell us about the relationship with china in those early days when you were secretary, and the dealings you had with the chinese. >> the situation then between the u.s. and china were very different than they are for what they are now, or were for the 10 years of the others as secretary of defense who will be speaking here today. the chinese were then very much worried about soviet possible attack on china, and looked to

the only thing i would say, the reason i agree with what harold brown has said, i think it is a threat. i wouldn't rate it as the most immediate threat, but it's clearly a threat. >> a security threat. >> that's what i mean. >> bill? >> always. >> perry? >> well, climate change, and the catastrophe that could occur from a climate change, and from a nuclear exchange, are both being existential. they need direct and immediate attention to keep them from happening, 10, 20, 30 years from now. >> mm-hmm. >> this one just for secretary hagel, since you set foot on lao ning, the chinese have announced the construction of an aircraft carrier. what are the implications, and should we be worried? >> i don't think we should be worried. i'm not surprised that they would make that decision. i think an aircraft carrier, not only strategically, tactically for them, is important. but i think the symbolism is particularly important for them. i was told, when i was there, when i visited that aircraft carrier, the retrofitted ukrainian aircraft carrier, which is not much of an aircraft carrier, looking a

as harold browning secretary brown has said, it doesn't mean you're going to always establish peace through economic prosperity, but you have a better chance of maintaining it than if there were no such strands of economic intersection. so i think the economic issue is the butterfly effect. you saw what happens when there is a little bit of bad news, disruption in the chinese stock market. a pretty big one. and it has an effect locally. all the markets effect it. this is the consequence of globalization. we are all inter connected. and what happens in a remote place in a remote town may seem insignificant, but it has major consequences, all the more reason why we have to look at trade, investment, as hopeful live a stabilizing voice in this relationship. >> it seems it would be interesting to find out what chinese businessmen do in the way of telling their government how important it is to have peaceful relations between the u.s. and china at some of these track 2 meetings. does that come up? >> it depends on the anti-corruption list,ive suppose. >> secretary hagel and bill perry, is there

david: harold brown who remains the smartest man i have ever encountered. get these huge briefing books and the staff would send them in and he would send them the with a note saying thickness of the armor on the asiet t 72 tank had been stated. he had this encyclopedic knowledge. ofcould argue the design thermonuclear weapons with edward keller. he knew more than any man alive about defense. he will tell you this. jimmy carter had other priorities. it is one of the first lessons i learned about the military which the president really is the commander-in-chief. it does not matter who the secretary of defense is or what he knows as long as he has a good relationship with the commander-in-chief. charlie: kissinger had a good relationship with nexen. those that did not have a good relationship you never knew whether they were speaking from a position of power or knowledge. william rogers, texans chief. feeloes the pentagon today that barack obama views them, what is the dynamic of the relationship? there was some bad blood over whether or not it would search t

this gives it away, harold brown who remains the , smartest man i have ever encountered in my life.e: how was it manifested? david: he would get these huge briefing books and the staff would send them in and he would send them back with a note saying the thickness of the armor on the soviet t-72 tank had been misstated. he had this encyclopedic knowledge. he could argue the design of them on nuclear weapons with edward teller. he knew more than any man alive about defense. ,e will tell you this as well he was not a particularly successful secretary of defense. charlie: why is that? david: jimmy carter had other priorities. it is one of the first lessons i learned about the military which , is the president really is the commander-in-chief. it does not matter all that much who the secretary of defense is or how much he knows as long as he has a good relationship with the commander-in-chief. charlie: that is also true about secretary of state, too. james baker had a great relationship with george bush. and kissinger had a good relationship with nixon. those that did not have a good re

harold brown, secretary from 1977 to '81. then go to william perry, who was secretary from 1994 to '97. bill, can you hear us? >> i can. >> we couldn't hear your response. >> i can hear you fine. >> terrific. >> then, we'll go to senator william cohen, secretary from '97-2001. and finally, to senator chuck hagel, who was secretary from 2013 to less than a year ago. i and the american people cannot thank all of you enough for your service to our country. and i am honored to be here with you today. secretary brown, you were secretary when we established diplomatic relations with china and i was a young lawyer, at the chinese are fond of saying small potato in the state department. tell us about the relationship with china in those early days when you were secretary and dealings you had with the chinese. >> the situation then between the u.s. and china were very different from what they are now or were for the tenures of the others as secretary of defense who will be speaking here today. the chinese were then very much worried a

harold brown. who remains the smartest man i have ever encountered in my life. >> rose: and how was it manifest? >> he would get like all secretaries of defense these huge briefing books. and the staff would send him in and he would sen them back with a note saying that annex q, the sickness of the armour on the soviet t-72 tank had been misstated. he had just this enpsych pedestrianic knowledge. and he also, he could argue the design of thermonew clear weapons with edward teller. he just knew more than any man alive about defense. but he was not-- and he would tell you this too. >> rose: i know it. >> a particularly successful secretary of defense. >> rose: and why was that? >> that was because of the person he worked for, jimmy carter had other priorities. and that i think is probably one of the first lessons i learned about the military. which is, the president really is the commander in chief. and it doesn't matter all that much who the secretary of defense is or how much he knows as long as he

harold goodwin, and panthers defensive coordinator sean mcdermott. mcdermott will meet with the bucks tomorrow then head up to cleveland for an interview with the browns on sunday. busy busy. >>> all you internet-savvy bucks fans, this is most of you, running back doug martin and jameis winston are up for awards on nfl.com. you the fans determine the winners. and is the clutch a lot of competition there. >>> it is wildcard weekend. sunday news channel 8 will have the seahawks/vikings game, expecting a game time temperature in the lone single digit, wind chills in the minus- 20s. so we're gonna try and keep this field as warm as possible up to sunday morning. and the new shiny stadium downtown is gorgeous. it's gonna nice and toasty at this time next year. >>> while the bucks were stunning us with their coaching news, the lightning enjoyed a couple of days off north of the border. they are back today. the hockey season is a long one but now is the time that head coach john cooper begins to focus on the math. his team, 2 points out of the wildcard spot. it's a manageable deficit. string together some wins. >> we gotta turn this around. we sit here and s

brown, senior director of government affairs for cisco. we have bill maguire, campaign manager for wi-fi forward. harold feld, senior vice president for public knowledge. blair anderson, deputy administrator for the national highway traffic safety administration, and of course michael. we'll start with dean. and each of the remaining panelists will give about five-minute remarks. >> thank you very much. i promise i'll stick to the five minutes. i guess if i had to have a theme this morning, it would be that to use a phrase i'm confident we'll hear tonight since today is the day of the state of the union address. i think so far this event shows that the state of the union is strong. great to see a bipartisan duo of two fcc commissioners working together. spectrum issues should not be partisan. there really should not be a republican view or democratic view on the 5.9-gigahertz band. these are largely technical issues. it's great to see that the two commissioners have shown sustained interest in this. it's great to see michael delving in to the chilly technical water so deeply and doing a great job on the

brown senior director of government affairs for cisco. we have bill maguire, campaign manager for wififorward. harold felt, senior vice president for public knowledge. blair anderson, deputy administrator for the national highway safety administration. and of course, michael. so, we're going to start with dean, and each of the remaining panelists will go about five minutes remarks. >> okay. thanks very much. i promise i will stick to the five minutes. so, i guess if i had to have a theme this morning, it would be that to use a phrase that i'm quite confident we'll hear tonight since today is the state of the union address. so far, it shows that the state of the union is strong. so, i'd like to see a bipartisan committee of commissioners working together. with the 5.9 gigahertz band, those are largely technical issues it's great that the two commissioners have shown sustained interest in this. it's great to see michael delving into the chilly technical waters doing so well on the report. finally, i think my family won't believe there's so many people that came to this session on 5.9 gigahertz. i'll ha

browne, senior director of government affairs for cisco. we have bill mcgwire, campaign manager for wi-fi forward. haroldfeld senior vice president for public knowledge. and blair anderson, deputy administer for the national highway traffic safety administration and, of course, michael. so, we're going to start with dean, and each of the remaining panelists we'll give about five minutes for remarks. >> thanks very much. i promise i will stick to the five minutes. so, i guess if i had to have a theme this morning, it would be that to use a phrase that i'm quite confident we'll hear tonight since today's the day of the state of the union address, i think so far this event shows that the state of the union is strong. so, great to see a bipartisan duo of two fcc commissioners working together, spectrum issues should not be partisan. there really should not be a republican view or a democratic view on the 5.9 gigahertz band. these are really, you know, largely technical issues, and it's great to see that the two commissioners have shown such sustained interest in this, and it's great to see michael delving in

need a forever home. harold is going introduce us to pups and kittens who need a forever home. hey there hope your morning is going well. the bengals welcome the stealers to paul brown stadium. they meet for the third time this season. they split the first two games. andy dalton went down to with a broken thumb. he's been doing his best to make his way back but friday it became official. he's out. a.j. mccarran will get his first n.f.l. start. a.j. on his mind-set throughout this process. about things i can't control and i know focus on what i need to focus on and andy's like a big brother to me so i wish him nothing but the best and a fast recovery but you know at the same time my mind-set is you know this my offense right now and i got to take it and go win. >> for more on the match up on all things bengals related get richard skinner injury updates, game previews and that's the skinny on local12.com. >> it was strange year for mike tom lynn gave their offence cranking out 500 yards per game -- tomorrow lynn. running back will not play he's been nursing a bad foot. he's listed as out. he was a work horse for the stealers. 200 carries for close to a thousand yards.