. >> harold carter senior remembers fred shuttles worth. shuttlesworth was a guest preacher and a lifelong friend. >> he believed that segregation was dead wrong. he not only believe in it, but he believed his call to ministry what to do something about it. >> the first became a pastor in birmingham, alabama, in 1953. he was a powerful force against racial injustice. >> what he was doing in birmingham was not always with a spotlight on him, but he was marching against segregated patterns. >> at a time when segregation and jim crow strangle the south. he organized countless marches, demonstrations, and sit in separate pieces by two bombings, a beating, and was sent to jail many times. the form the southern christian leadership conference. he was called one of the nation but the most courageous freedom fighters. dr. carter is grateful to have known him as a friend. >> it was a basic french ship. he was a lot of fun. -- it was a basic friendship. he was a lot of fun. >> there will always gerris a conversation he had about 10 years ago. >> whet

i followed jimmy carter around the country. then harold ford. host: we will talk about the 1976 race. i want to assure you two headlines. ridgely i want to show you two headlines. and this morning from the "washington post," this from scott wilson. he rarely spends more than a few minutes on a rope line -- guest: there are elements of truth in both articles. in fact, when president obama for started running in iowa, four years ago, he was criticized for not working the rope lines in doubt. after all, the last democrat who won was bill clinton, who was famous for never leaving the rope line. that is the line the people that stand up after a speech, sometimes literally behind ropes, sometimes behind benches or bales of hay, and wait to greet the president or the candidate and shake their hand or take their picture with their cell phone. it is an important part of campaigning, especially in states like iowa and new hampshire, where retail politics, where they like to touch the president -- the candidate and get their picture taken with them, it is

i followed jimmy carter around the country. then harold ford.t: we will talk about the 1976 race. i want to assure you two headlines. ridgely i want to show you two headlines. and this morning from the "washington post," this from scott wilson. he rarely spends more than a few minutes on a rope line -- guest: there are elements of truth in both articles. in fact, when president obama for started running in iowa, four years ago, he was criticized for not working the rope lines in doubt. after all, the last democrat who won was bill clinton, who was famous for never leaving the rope line. that is the line the people that stand up after a speech, sometimes literally behind ropes, sometimes behind benches or bales of hay, and wait to greet the president or the candidate and shake their hand or take their picture with their cell phone. it is an important part of campaigning, especially in states like iowa and new hampshire, where retail politics, where they like to touch the president -- the candidate and get their picture taken with them, it is part